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Coloken

08-21-2007 13:45:24

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You fellows are always asking about hay price so I copy and paste this from the local Craig list. It is a very good year for hay here except a lot of people grew corn . I think some of you are selling those little bales for less than it costs you..

Quote:We have big round bales of hay that had rain on it for $70.00 bale. Please call(970)534-????
We also have very good quality hay in big round bales for $125.00/bale
and small square bales for $6.00/bale
and grass/hay mix small square bales for $7.00/bale

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Clint Youse MO

08-24-2007 04:59:00

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Re: price of hay in reply to Coloken, 08-21-2007 13:45:24

I had a guy here in NEMO said he would sell me mixed grass hay for $40 a tonthought that was fair usually little squares are 3 to 5 a bale depend on quality and large rounds 25+ a bale this is grass we do not feed any alfalfa I ussually trade a grain bin 13000 bushel for 50 bales but that guy is short on hay this year.

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Tx Jim

08-22-2007 03:57:33

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Re: price of hay in reply to Bart from the U.P., 08-21-2007 13:45:24

Coloken.here in N Texas I custom bale and charge $1.50 for 55/60# small squares. That's cut.rake & bale on ground. A fellow I baled for sold 2nd cutting.fertized coastal Bermuda in field for $5 and 4X5 rds for $30 Tx Jim

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Shovelman

08-21-2007 18:29:26

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Re: price of hay in reply to Coloken, 08-21-2007 13:45:24

Here in the People's Republic of Connecticut:

At the barn

1st cut 40lb small squares $4.75
2nd cut 40lb small squares $5.75

4x4 dry rounds $40.
4x4 wrapped baleage $45.

Orchard Grass / Timothy / Fescue mix

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alg

08-21-2007 17:16:18

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Re: price of hay in reply to Coloken, 08-21-2007 13:45:24

1st. cut timothy $4.00 bale.Western N.J.

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famer blue

08-21-2007 17:11:29

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Re: price of hay in reply to Coloken, 08-21-2007 13:45:24

I just sold some (junk in my opinion) first cutting grass/alfalfa mix (80% grass)
for $4.00 a bale.. I'm thinking of asking 6? for second.. my brother in-law just bought some large rounds.. first cutting LAST year... moldy and rotten as can be.. $20 a bale.. I 'bout sh!t!!!

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M Nut

08-21-2007 14:10:34

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Re: price of hay in reply to Coloken, 08-21-2007 13:45:24

How does any one pay $70.00 dollars, let alone $125.00 for round bales of hay? I bought 200 bales at $30 dollars a bale this year (1700lb bales), and I just about passed out writing that check. Any more, and the cows would HAVE to go. Not because I wanted them to, but there would simply be no other alternative. Each cow takes 10 bales of hay,(NE MN) the calves are worth approx. $600 when sold, that's half the profit gone on each calf just feeding the cow. I also got some for $20, but the fellow had no more to sell, and I needed more so I bit the bullet.

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jason, NW Ontario

08-22-2007 04:12:16

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Re: price of hay in reply to M Nut, 08-21-2007 14:10:34

M Nut,
Where are you located in NE Mn?

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M Nut

08-22-2007 05:49:58

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Re: price of hay in reply to jason, NW Ontario, 08-22-2007 04:12:16

I'm actually in the north, east, central part of the state. 50 Miles east of Brainerd, and 70 miles south west of Duluth. I start feeding the cows in October, and they are on full feed until May 20th, give or take.

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TomTex

08-22-2007 01:25:07

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Re: price of hay in reply to M Nut, 08-21-2007 14:10:34

Anyone that sold you hay at $20 per round bale lost money on it. Around here custom cut, rake, bale, leave on the ground is $18 per bale and up for 4X5. Tom

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M Nut

08-22-2007 06:03:19

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Re: price of hay in reply to TomTex, 08-22-2007 01:25:07

TomTex,
Unless the cost of making hay in Texas is much higher, I have to disagree with you. I used to sell quite a bit of hay here in MN. While I was getting my pasture fences rebuilt to hold cattle, I sold the hay off my fields, and the most I ever got for my 1200 lb bales was $20. This was about five years ago. Even now, I do some custom haying for a couple of my neighbors. No matter how I figure the price, my actual expense is less than $15 a bale into making them. Now, I don't try and depreciate out my equipment on the custom work, because I need it for my own use anyway. I also figure my time as just a "neighborly favor". So, I charge $7 a bale to just round bale, or $15 dollar a bale cut raked and baled. However, I only do it for certain people, and it is not a business by any means. My point, I think that $20 a bale hay is cheap enough. I don't expect it to be any cheaper, but I also don't think the individual is taking a lose at that point either. Heck, in 2005 I was paying $5 a bale for 1000 lb bales of grass hay. That was for 130 bales!
Until 500-600 lb calves bring $2.00 a lb, there is no way I can afford more than the $30 dollars I paid this year. I even sold 13 cows first trying to get my numbers down, but it was so dry here it still wasn't enough. It was buy feed or sell the cows, and I wasn't ready for that.

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TomTex

08-22-2007 15:35:21

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Re: price of hay in reply to M Nut, 08-22-2007 06:03:19

What we have here is a failure to communicate. I am saying that aroung here most hay is coastal bermuda. You need to weed spray at least every other year to keep weeds down. You have to fertlize every year to get decent quality hay. You need to run an aerator over it, every year or every other year, depending on soil compaction to keep the stand thick and growing. Sometimes you have to shred it with rotary cutter to knock down weeds. So if you add all that up, then pay 18 to 20 per round bale 4X5 for custom baling - - there is now way you can even break even at 25 per bale. Most folks here get 40 or more per 4X5 bale of coastal. Most folks only feed 4 to 5 round bales per winter per mother cow. AT 40 per bale times 5 bales, you would have 200 expense wintering per head, or about 1/3 of the calf price. Diferent palces, different practices. You must have to feed an awful lot of hay in the northern winters. I am in North Central Texas. Here we also graze fall planted small grains; wheat or oats. Gives cows and calves good protein and really helps out on the amount of hay. Tom

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M Nut

08-23-2007 20:56:21

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Re: price of hay in reply to TomTex, 08-22-2007 15:35:21

Like you say, different ways for different regions. Here I just go in and get the job done. The only cost I have is fuel and twine. Now I see more where you are comming from. Yes, we always figure 10,000lbs of hay per cow for the winter months. (oct.-may)

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Coloken

08-21-2007 14:29:24

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Re: price of hay in reply to M Nut, 08-21-2007 14:10:34

"How does one pay for them?" Why you work in town at a job and buy them to feed the horses or goats of course. Don't you know that farming and raching as we have know it, is no longer. Sell your place to a large corperation so they can use it for a vacation place and hand you tips for greesing their 4 wheelers.

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Allan In NE

08-21-2007 14:59:16

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Re: price of hay in reply to Coloken, 08-21-2007 14:29:24

I've got a new neighbor who bought a place up here and put up something like 90 acres in small squares.

They live down there around Denver someplace and every weekend they run up here with two pickups and haul loads back down there.

Says he can sell all he can haul for $7 to $10 a bale. Just prairie hay grass stuff.

Allan

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Coloken

08-21-2007 16:03:29

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Re: price of hay in reply to Allan In NE, 08-21-2007 14:59:16

Allan, your pretty good at cost figures..Just what does it cost to cut, bale and pickup out of the field small bales. Forget the land or seed or such, just the cutting and baleing. I don't mean a retired with nothing else to do, or a tractor that is all ready paid for or a baler that you stole 20 years ago for 100 bucks. I mean actual cost,like if you hired it done. I bet its a couple of bucks a bale at least.

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pair-a-dice farm

08-21-2007 17:57:47

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Re: price of hay in reply to Coloken, 08-21-2007 16:03:29

In my part of Arkansas it would break down like this per 5x6 round bale:

Fertilizer: $10
Land(rent): $ 8
Equipment : $10
Fuel : $ 3
Labor : $12

This is Fertilizer @ $350 ton
Land rent @ $50 acre
Equipment @ $100000 depreciated out at 10000 bales. (I know
no one who has this much invested, but it could easily be done. I have about 1/3 this much in mine)
Fuel @ $2.50 gal
Labor @ $12.00 Hr (I don't think I ever made this much)

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T.K. in Pa

08-21-2007 17:19:36

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Re: price of hay in reply to Coloken, 08-21-2007 16:03:29

don't know about your area, but here in Pennsylvania the custom rate is $1.67 per bale. that's for cut,rake, bale on ground. doesn't hardly seem like enough with the price of fuel & twine. glad i'm not doing it. Todd

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famer blue

08-21-2007 17:22:34

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Re: price of hay in reply to T.K. in Pa, 08-21-2007 17:19:36

here in Indiana, it cost me 2.14 a bale too make hay.. and if the price of gas goes up much more..

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Larry NE IL

08-21-2007 22:55:54

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Re: price of hay in reply to famer blue, 08-21-2007 17:22:34

I know my cost is around $2.00/small square. Then add storing it for about 5-6 months.

All the rain we're getting, my 3rd cutting should yeild almost as much as the first.....if I ever get to it!!

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