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Re: Well, Fer Phooie!

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PhilcaseinWPa

08-30-2007 10:08:29




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Hey Allan,

I'm not familiar with what exactly field cultivating is. How deep do you go? Is it like running a spring tooth or cultimulcher after tillage? Do you plant afterward or is more finnish work done? I've seen the term and the equipment at various places but don't know just what it's purpose is. Is it some type of minimal tillage or like chisel plowing? I don't like sounding dumb but my curiosity has gotten the better of my pride.

Phil

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Allan In NE

08-30-2007 10:20:30




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 Re: Well, Fer Phooie! in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 08-30-2007 10:08:29  
What the heck ya talkin' about? Not a dumb question at all.

Field cultivators do the same job as a spring tooth only with a better weed kill because they use duck-feet instead of bull-tongues.

Where they really shine tho, is when incorporating pre-emergent chemicals because of the way that they really "mix" the soil.

I wouldn't want to plant behind one tho. They leave the surface way too rough for my liking; however, they do keep the soil from blowing.

I just use this thing to kill weeds and to get a deep cut for mid-season summer fallow.

Allan

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paul

08-30-2007 11:45:30




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 Re: Well, Fer Phooie! in reply to Allan In NE, 08-30-2007 10:20:30  
'Round here most have a 2-3 bar harrow bolted on the back, to leave a level seed bed.

Used to be here in the clay of the north we plowed in fall, spring disked 2-3 times, harrowed 1-2 times, planted, then harrowed before the crop broke out of the ground. This is in corn & beans.

Now, chisel plow (many different names for that), then field cultivate once in spring, plant, & that is it.

Me, I molboard plow the cornstalks. I haven't touched the bean stubble the last 2 years.

In spring I field cultivate one time (with an old 22' 45 Vibrashank like Allan shows - mine has 3 bar springtooth on it) and plant. I typically alternate corn & soybeans year to year.

A lot less fuel used than in old days.

The 45 does have difficulty with bean stubble when the beans were good.

I have chopped cornstalks, chisel plowed in fall, then ran the 45 Vibrashank one time in spring & planted. This was on a very small 5 acre plot. I don't know that the 45 could handle the cornstalk trash on a big acreage this way.

The new 4500 and up field cultivators have a lot more spacing between rows, and will have 4, sometimes 5 rows of sweeps to put more distance between each shank. They can really handle the trash.

All it takes is $$$$.

--->Paul

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BobHnwOh

08-30-2007 14:49:59




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 Re: Well, Fer Phooie! in reply to paul, 08-30-2007 11:45:30  
Yup,you need a Remlinger harrow on that thang!!Bob. third party image



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PhilcaseinWPa

08-30-2007 10:51:47




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 Re: Well, Fer Phooie! in reply to Allan In NE, 08-30-2007 10:20:30  
Thanks for the info Allan. With a rig that wide one pass out and another back and my little patches would be done. With all my hills I don't like to plow much more than 12 36" rows wide. Even on the little flat ground I have I use this spacing most of the time because it works well with my sprayers etc.

Phil



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