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Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone?

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Allan In NE

09-12-2007 06:16:10

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Okay, before I ruin another wheat crop. :>(

It is dry here; way dry.

Plan on running the rod over the ground this morning and then planting field run wheat seed this afternoon.

Have the drill set to 55 lbs. Do I sink 'er as deep as it will go or just plant and hope for a measurable rain sometime before Christmas?

All the neighbors are putting it in the ground and say it "Plant it; it won't grow in the bin".

This darned dryland farming gives me a headache. :>(

Allan

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Budn

09-12-2007 17:36:03

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Allan In NE, 09-12-2007 06:16:10

Just curious s 55 lbs. normal for winter wheat? I don't know any thing about it. Here we plant spring wheat and plant 2 to 2 1/2 bushels.

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Allan In NE

09-13-2007 01:56:07

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Budn, 09-12-2007 17:36:03

45 to 60 lbs. out here on the high plains.

There just is not enough ground moisture to support any higher rate and in additiion, this is cropping every other year.

Last year, I got on between 70 and 90 lbs. Burnt it to the ground and it only got 18" tall. :>(

Allan

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steveormary

09-12-2007 09:49:00

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Allan In NE, 09-12-2007 06:16:10

Allan;

Plant in dry ground and wait for rain.

steveormary

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David in Mo

09-12-2007 09:38:21

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Allan In NE, 09-12-2007 06:16:10

I picked up my seed last night and will be planting Saturday, about 2" deep and hope it rains soon. It always does here mid September.

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Wyokid

09-12-2007 08:51:17

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Allan In NE, 09-12-2007 06:16:10

Allen,
You may not want to get it too deep. I don't know what the coleoptile length is on Jagelene, Buck skin is about 2 1/2". Basically if the seeding depth is much more than the coleoptile length it can't break thru with enough stength left to leaf out. I personally wouldn't want to go much more than 2 maybe 2 1/2" deep.

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Dick L

09-12-2007 07:31:08

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Allan In NE, 09-12-2007 06:16:10

Not knowing your area could not give advice at all. Here in the North West corner of Ohio wheat is put in shallow. A lot of good wheat was dropped over bean fields just as the leaves were ready to drop. The saying as I was growing up was mud in oats and dust in wheat. Dad had a coupla good crops of wheat that he had the wheat mixed with fertilizer at the Co-ops and spread it on with a fertilizer buggy. Run over the field with a spring tooth set shallow. Dad farmed 148 acres until he was 75 and it was hard for him to dump the seed in his drill so he went back to the end gate idea. Dad started farming in the 1920's and sowed his wheat with a end gate seeder that someone loaned him. It was mounted on the back of a wagon pulled with a team of horses. Always told around here that if I could get a coupla inches of green before frost I had it made on late planting.

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Allan In NE

09-12-2007 07:30:09

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Allan In NE, 09-12-2007 06:16:10

Thanks for all the help Guys.

Heading out the door now. If I don't get a crop this time around, think I'll plant it back to buffalo grass and let mother nature have it all back.

She seems to know what she's doing. :>)

Allan

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Bill in Colo

09-12-2007 07:21:07

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Allan In NE, 09-12-2007 06:16:10

Kenny's right as to getting it to moisture.
For me this is about the right time to plant any earlier we run the chance of snow mold if we have more than four months of snow cover.
I've planted into late Nov. many times we just add about 5 lbs per week after the first of October.
I used a rod weeder to firm the ground, until I got a cultipacker I like it much better.
Had our first frost on the 10 th .

Bill

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Coloken

09-12-2007 07:05:14

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Allan In NE, 09-12-2007 06:16:10

Allan, just yesterday an old friend of mine stopped by and we were talking about old times. Planting wheat came up and we remembered standing out in the field discussing this vary same thing. There is no answer. Plant it shallow and wait for a rain--get 4 tenths and it sprouts and dies. Plant it deep, get an inch and it crusts. After a life time of this, the best I can say is that if you CAN get it to moisture, do so. We have even adapted our drills to help with this. 14 inch spaceing. If no moisture, just plant it deep enough to be on firm dirt.... Understand anything is just a guess, and do it your way with out believing in what some old f.... says. Don't know the dates where you are but you might hold off a week or two and hope for a rain, but forcast is not good. But plant it whatever.

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Rich Va

09-12-2007 06:53:07

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Allan In NE, 09-12-2007 06:16:10

When planting cover crops here this time of the year in dry ground some of the farmers pull a culti-packer behind the drill. No hoe drills in this area. Deep is better than shallow,very little moisture needed to germinate wheat and it will wait for a rain.

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Allan In NE

09-12-2007 06:58:46

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Rich Va, 09-12-2007 06:53:07

Okay,

I'm gonna screw 'er down against the stops and make it dig.

Tried that "packer" thing once. Just don't work here in the gumbo 'cause it puts a lid on the ground that nothing can come thru.

Allan

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Coloken

09-12-2007 07:12:24

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Allan In NE, 09-12-2007 06:58:46

that packer thing brings up memories of me and that same friend having a lot of discussions on packer wheels on grain drills..a very important thing in the way they are built. Inverted V, with a space in the middle seems to be best. The old way of draging a shash weight on a chain aint too bad.

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skip33652

09-12-2007 06:36:55

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Re: Drillin' Wheat.....Colorado Ken 'er Someone? in reply to Allan In NE, 09-12-2007 06:16:10

allan if you have any moisture at all, and a hoe drill to find, set it down so the seed is packed into moisture.the broadcast and wait for a rain works only a ways east of you. the wheat will probably be better off coming from too deep than coming up in patches.if it rains hard before wheat comes up you will probably have to start over.Paul

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