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When they are bad, I agree, they turn my stomach as far as what they do. It's bad enough that one may need to log a place, it needs to be done, for money or otherwise, and I'm not talking the entire timber-logging-lumber industry as a whole, just those miserable slobs who do steal, make an awful mess and damage the existing trees while doing their work. I don't care if you are a logger or have another opinion, when they are bad they are the worst slobs in the woods one can imagine and have no reservations about what they do. My father who I have to say is a lot different than I when it comes to hiring and matters like these, had them here many years ago, reason was a money crunch if I recall, and just like you say, I caught them across the property line and stopped them, they damaged a lot of our trees, they left a real mess, and they stole. They were looking to steal from all the surroundng landowners, caught em off the property several times. When I saw enough of this, and it was not even my place, I threw em off, and told them NEVER come here again, don't care if some other fool hires you nearby. To this day I'd still like to exhibit a lack of self control towards that miserable @ld codger, his family and anyone associated, you just don't let these kind on youer property if you have any respect for what you have, in this case a pristine untouched wood lot. I told him about D.E.C., marking out the trees, determining the value up front, would not listen. Someone stole a valuable a 3 foot dia. cherry, I hemmed and hawed, nothing doing, they did a lot of damage without any hesitation, on that note I'll leave it be, makes my blood boil. Down the road behind the local Agway, another guy did some logging and was the complete opposite, really nice honest job, live and learn, but like was said, make sure you know exactly what is to be taken and make darn sure it's followed under your terms or you'll end up with a mess and being ripped off. And no I don't want to argue or debate anyone about these people, when they are bad they are really bad, there is no doubt in my mind. Landowners need to be warned about these types.
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