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O/T how to lay cermic tile, part 2

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old

09-19-2007 18:35:01




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Well I have barrowed a tile cutter from a friend. But he problem is he doesn't know how to use it and I don't either. So guys any bouy out there that can explain how to cut tile with it?? I tried to cut a couple pieces of scrap tile and it didn't work out well Please explain how to use this thing. It has a handle and a wheel blade like a glass cutter and a foot on it but for the life of me I can't figure out how to mkae it work.
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Billy NY

09-20-2007 11:19:16




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 Re: O/T how to lay cermic tile, part 2 in reply to old, 09-19-2007 18:35:01  
My preference would be the wetsaw, I was in a similar situation last year, for a customer. Just a tiny 6' x 5' bathroom, in a commercial building, I had to do a gut rehab in this bathroom was in rough shape, also re-designed the new bathroom for them, to include 12" x 12" ceramic tile flooring, which had to be ordered. I wanted it to look nice since it was to accomodate the new office.

I had heard of the other type of cutter that you are using, but just decided to grab that $80 wet saw at Lowes, certainly did not need the $400 dollar and or up models unless I was going to do a lot of tile, even then, this one I bought really made short work of the cuts I needed, and I did not have to worry about losing material, only so many tiles in a box, special order tight schedule, they were moving into the office asap etc.

Now the kicker is, I don't ever recall doing any ceramic tile work in the past, but I've always been quick to learn, so I figured it out, used top quality materials, from a reputable supply house, portland cement based ashesive, thoroughly cleaned the old concrete floor up, laid the tile out, pulled em back up, made the cuts as I went along, used the the right size fluted trowel, grouted the next day, cleaned, and applied grout sealer after the grout cured. I did not think it was difficult, it's still work, but the end product is a durable floor.

That saw, although the cheap low end model, really made the difference, need to shave a little off, or make an odd cut, no problem, it collects dust now, a friend just borrowed and returned it for a small repair, wish you were closer, or I could fit it into an envelope ! I know how it is on a low budget, but if you could get your hands on one, I'd think you would like it and might not damage any material when cutting. The thing I like about this material is that properly set, it's durable, looks great and was almost a little fun to learn about and install.

Not too bad for an amateur, burgundy 12" x 12" tiles, dark but matching grout, no base trim on yet, walls change color to white 1/2 way up, with a stained chair rail molding between, to match the old door and trim from the late 40's, the floor really made the room, from a neglected mechanics bathroom to something respectable, the before photo shows a really untidy old bathroom:

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Walt Davies

09-20-2007 11:06:45




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 Re: O/T how to lay cermic tile, part 2 in reply to old, 09-19-2007 18:35:01  
Hey Kid, why don't you just go down to a Home depot or Lowes they have lots of cheap books on laying tile that will make it very easy to see what to do its not an easy job to teach someone something as complicated as this on this forum.
You need to see pics and other things like what tools you need and what kind of tile you have and what type of set you need and how to space them cut them fit them around things center the whole thing so it will look nice how to mix the grout and install it. and on and on its just a major thing that if you have never done before then I would suggest getting a good class on it or books or just hire it done. There is nothing more ugly that a poor tile job.
Walt

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suptscottyb

09-20-2007 06:47:50




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 Re: O/T how to lay cermic tile, part 2 in reply to old, 09-19-2007 18:35:01  
davejoe gave you the best advice. How much of what kinda tile are you gonna lay where? Do you have a book with a how to layout tile project article?



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cj3b_jeep

09-20-2007 04:50:40




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 Re: O/T how to lay cermic tile, part 2 in reply to old, 09-19-2007 18:35:01  
I use a tile cutter like that on smal jobs, but a wet saw for larger jobs, makes a nicer cut. A cutter like you borrowed works well if the wheel is sharp like other have said, but they don't work on some tiles as well as they do on others. They seem to work nice on glazed tile, but anything with a raised pattern, and non-glazed tile they don't work so well. This is a case where I'd get te Harbor Freight one and use it for this job. If it lasts longer, that's a bonus.

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davejoe

09-19-2007 19:51:35




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 Re: O/T how to lay cermic tile, part 2 in reply to old, 09-19-2007 18:35:01  
Save yourself the grief and rent or buy a wet saw to cut the tile with. The wet saw will allow compound cuts and non-square cuts. Ceramic is alot of work so doing it once right is well worth it. Dave



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NE IA Dave

09-19-2007 19:07:28




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 Re: O/T how to lay cermic tile, part 2 in reply to old, 09-19-2007 18:35:01  
There are numerous old and new models, but usualy you just score the tile by pressing down very firmly and pulling it toward you. Then several have a place that sort of has a hump under the tile or a ledge to hang the edge over and then you snap it downward. I think as much as I have ever seen them, they all cut the face of the tile.

If you must round corners or make a circle you must slab it off as tile pretty much can be snaped in straight lines only, otherwise you get several small chips.

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Janicholson

09-19-2007 18:51:41




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 Re: O/T how to lay cermic tile, part 2 in reply to old, 09-19-2007 18:35:01  
The tile is laid under the wheel in a position to align the wheel travel with the intended break in the tile. The wheel is moved across the glazed surface of the tile scoring it (more than cutting glass) deeply. The down force is pretty serious. If the wheel is dull Uusually from cutting abrasive tile , or old age from years of use, they will not work. A new wheel is cheap. Tile stores sell them, Look on line to find sources. Once scored from edge to edge, the tile is broken (some machines have a rubber snapping attachment, some do not) Irregular spots can be sanded away with silicon carbide, or better yet Zirconium grit abrasive. I hope this helps, JimN

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