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How to Boot a Tire?

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Aaron Ford

10-12-2007 03:58:04




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My friend has a Case 711B that has marginal rears that will soon be replaced. He needs to use the tractor for general cleanup while his garage is being built. The problem is that one of the rears was cut and allowed the tube to pass through and get pinched. I would like to break this tire down and boot it like I have seen people do, but what do you use for a boot? Would a car tire sidewall work?

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Aaron

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RodInNS

10-12-2007 12:19:21




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-12-2007 03:58:04  
What is that; a 15.5x38? If it's a fairly common tire I'd just find a used one to stick on there for a while, or else just put the new set on if it can be done....
Price that blowout patch that's been mentioned, then price a NEW tire. I think the last blowout patch I had installed was about 100 bucks for the patch plus the labor to install it. That was a relatively new tire so I didn't want to junk it, but I wouldn't even consider patching an old tire.
Dunno if a liner would help you in that situation, but I doubt it. You need to bond the tire back together.
Used tire might be quick easy solution for you.

Rod

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David Snipes

10-12-2007 12:18:54




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-12-2007 03:58:04  
I saw a home made tire boot made out of a piece of sheet metal. It seemed to work pretty well, but I don't think I would try it except in an emergency.



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hd6gtom

10-12-2007 10:01:24




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-12-2007 03:58:04  
Aaron when buffing the inside of a farm tire you must be very carefull. There is a very thin innerliner in those. If you get too deep you will be in the first layer of cords. If you leave these cords exposed they can eventually wear a hole in the tube. We usually put glue on the tire and the boot. It may have been overkill but it worked for me. Most modern glues are not ment to be set on fire. If you do you will leave burnt ash on top of the remaning glue, thus weaking the bond between the tire and boot.

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old

10-12-2007 09:11:49




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-12-2007 03:58:04  
Theres boots and theres also liners as Glen showed you. His picture is a liner not a boot. A boot is just an extra large patch that you glue inside the tire then put the tube back in. The key to haveing a boot work is getting the inside of the tire clean and buffed well and a good tire patch glue. I may self prefer the type that will burn and I do light it up so as to make the tire/tube hot and that seems to make the patch stick a lot better. But I also worked for a few years as a tire repair man so I have BTDT many many times

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glennster

10-12-2007 10:17:21




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to old, 10-12-2007 09:11:49  
wow old, learn something new everyday. i never knew they were called liners. pa used to say put the big boot in there or put a little boot in there. i gotta remember that now.



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old

10-12-2007 10:46:18




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to glennster, 10-12-2007 10:17:21  
Those liners are made more for keeping thorns from getting to the tube then any thing else. In theory what the liner does is rubs the point off the thorn so it can't put a hole in the tube. Liners now days are hard to find or at least in my area they are. And a boot is just an extra large patch. I have seen them as small as 4 inches and as big as 18 inches square

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noncompos

10-12-2007 09:40:33




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to old, 10-12-2007 09:11:49  
Old: Ever think you'd live long enough that everyone wouldn't know what boots and reliners were, or, worse, have had to use them ?? Ahhh..the good ? 'ol days...



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old

10-12-2007 10:49:13




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to noncompos, 10-12-2007 09:40:33  
Well to tell the truth I'm not really all that old. I just use the name because of where I learned what I know. I learned at a young age to keep my month shut and my ears open and you can learn a lot by doing so. Shoot most of the people I learned from are 6 foot under now



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noncompos

10-12-2007 12:19:10




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to old, 10-12-2007 10:49:13  
One thing I will add: I've never heard the thorn theory, so can't comment, altho lived in mesquite country for years, and they will go thru tires--we used reliners when (1) we'd had a flat and the cords had broken loose inside the tire. If you cut them it was slow and difficult, and we worried about weakening the tire even more, and if you left them loose they ate holes in the tube; and (2) when there was a bad split that would pinch the tube (a big boot often made the tire "bump") or the tire was so old and worn out it was gonna blow out soon on the gravel/washboard/chuckhole roads.

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Mathias NY

10-12-2007 08:38:23




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-12-2007 03:58:04  
This spring one of my rear tires split, about 4" vertically along the sidewall. I bought a patch from Miller Tire. Including the glue I think it cost around $40. Basically had to remove the tire from the rim, clean the inner wall, wire brush it, apply the patch and glue according to the instructions, and reinstall the tire. 3 months later it still appears to be holding.

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glennster

10-12-2007 05:01:37




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-12-2007 03:58:04  
i get tire boots from our local F S (farm service) tire shop, they have them in stock. probably any tire store in your area that sells farm tires should have the boots. the boots are pretty thick in the center and then taper out so the tube fits good. get one to cover about half way around the inside of the tire. heres a picture of a boot with a tire and rim.
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T.K. in PA

10-12-2007 04:37:44




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 Re: How to Boot a Tire? in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-12-2007 03:58:04  
look up Gemplers



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