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PJBROWN VT

11-24-2007 11:50:42




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Could any one tell me about the IH cyclo corn planters ???? Where they good or bad??? I know where there is one for sale that is dirt cheap and looks in great condision. Do you have to pull them slow or can you move right a long with them.




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James22

11-26-2007 18:59:43




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 Re: IH cyclo planter in reply to PJBROWN VT, 11-24-2007 11:50:42  
The model 400 had trouble with seed depth control which is more critical for corn than perfect spacing. On late model 400's IH offered depth gauge wheels and you could also buy aftermarket wheels. If food plots, I wouldn't care. If not just playing with the wildlife I would require them. I spent a lot of time and money trying to fix a 400 planter monitor system and finally gave up. Have heard the same story from many others. The model 800 came standard with gauge wheels and other good improvements. The model 900 improved the closing disk arrangement and with a little care this planter can do a darn good job. Can't meet the planting accuracy of a calibrated JD finger pickup but can come pretty close. A fellow in Iowa whom I consider kind of a Guru on these planters, gave me suggestions to use on my 12 row model 900 I bought this spring and I'm really satisfied. Safford rebounders, modified seed corn drums to reduce drum jerk, medium flat seeds, a good cut-off brush spaced correctly and a slower planting speed (recommended not to go above five, but I planted at four mph) are many of his recommendations. One of the reasons I upgraded from the 400 was to get a working monitor, which is one heck of a lot better than getting off the tractor and checking for problems. Also darn nice to see the seed drums turning and full of corn, rather than glancing back to see the lever arm moving on the rear mounted 400 seed drum and hoping corn was in the drum. Might have had better results with a 12 row White model 6000 which was $10K more that I was considering. But this planter delivered nearly 200 bu corn on timber soil which is pretty good for any planter.

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farmerweber in PA

11-25-2007 18:29:07




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 Re: IH cyclo planter in reply to PJBROWN VT, 11-24-2007 11:50:42  
We bought one 6-7 years ago at a sale for $125.Figured if it didn't work right we could get that much out of the cylinders and parts.Turned out that it works really good.Retired the old Deere 290 to sweet corn duty.Best 125 bucks we've spent yet.It's a 4 row with dry fertilizer.



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flying belgian

11-24-2007 19:15:12




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 Re: IH cyclo planter in reply to PJBROWN VT, 11-24-2007 11:50:42  
I plant with a 6 row 400. Love it. For corn acuracy you do have to drive very slow. 4 mph max. Just understand how they work and you will realise at 1 mph they would be completely acurite and go up from there for acuracy that is acceptable to you.



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Dairy farmer in WI

11-24-2007 18:45:58




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 Re: IH cyclo planter in reply to PJBROWN VT, 11-24-2007 11:50:42  
my dad has a 4 row i think it's a 300 cyclo and had no problems with it. he still uses it to date. just remember to always lean out the sed tank and the fertilizer tank every time you get done with it for the year...as goes with any planter. it works fine for him and he never even uses the moniter.
Df in WI



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mnjoe

11-24-2007 16:38:13




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 Re: IH cyclo planter in reply to PJBROWN VT, 11-24-2007 11:50:42  
I picked up a 6 row Cyclo 400 years ago to plant corn, soybeans and sorghum (milo), for foodplots and a few acres. Now I have a 800 setup. Finding milo drum took me years to find for the 400. Both worked good.



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Gerald J.

11-24-2007 13:51:18




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 Re: IH cyclo spiller in reply to PJBROWN VT, 11-24-2007 11:50:42  
I own one. I'm taking parts off of it for my sidedresser made from another one.

I won't glorify it to claim its a planter. It counts seed pretty good if the seed are sized consistently and the drum brush is good and is set right. It fails to feed the drum sometimes when the tank leaks too much air. Its imperitive to swab out the pipes to get rid of the bug nests and cacoons, or it won't plant that row at all. On the older models you can't see the drum without a couple mirrors and then as the drive has worn the drum snaps one hole at a time and it takes some decorative paint to detect the drum turning. That pause and snap might be cured with pieces of weatherstrip. One year the pressure got 0.1" too low because of a worn fan drive belt and it didn't spill seeds at all. Another year, one row plugged for no detectable reason.

My biggest gripe is that with the long air pipes the seed tend to bunch up so it drops clumps and gaps, not the even spacing of the JD7000 that I plant with now.

The annoyances made me cuss a lot and if it had been more combustible, it would have been the centerpiece of a bon fire, several times.

Its a great concept, nice to have only one seed tank, but when it messes up (and I never was able to make the monitor work) it wastes way too much time and seed and causes a poor yield even when it works at its best.

Gerald J.

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doug in illinois

11-24-2007 13:27:20




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 Re: IH cyclo planter in reply to PJBROWN VT, 11-24-2007 11:50:42  
I have owned 2 400 cyclo"s, they are good machines as long as you have the correct drums. I have planted milo (grain sorghum) in Nebraska, soybeans and corn in IL with them. As long as the pump will supply enough air and runner-openers aren"t totally shot, very good machine. Seed placement is excellent. Just remember they are getting a little old, but that has never deterred me from buying a piece of equipment if the price is right and I need it. I just bought a JD 1380 pivot tongue mower conditioner, they were made in the late 70s and early 80s, but for the less than 100 acres hay I do in a year should do just fine. Paid 600 for it, and have already bought all manuals for it off Ebay. Operators, flat rate, parts, and technical (repair) manual. You might want to do the same if you buy the 400. DOUG

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Steven f/AZ

11-24-2007 12:14:13




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 Re: IH cyclo planter in reply to PJBROWN VT, 11-24-2007 11:50:42  
We have an old 400 6-row wide, PTO driven fan... the newer ones have a hydraulic driven fan...

Plants good at about 5mph max, Dad went 6 one year and we had some skips. I pull it with the 544 IH in 3rd gear - handles it real well.

Lots of record-setting corn yields planted with IH cyclo planters. Also good for sunflowers, too.

The only problem is if you need to get fertilizer in deep or put a lot on, there are limitations in the design of the machine as to how much and how deep you can go. Ours doesn't work real great in heavy trash, either.

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Mark-Mi

11-24-2007 19:02:33




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 Re: IH cyclo planter in reply to Steven f/AZ, 11-24-2007 12:14:13  
Speaking of record setting,I won the Michian corn growers contest class A soils non irrigated in 1982 with a old cyclo 400.229.2 bu./acre.Pretty good for 25 years ago.Won the the national to,wasn't using Pioneer seed and Pioneer found away to get me disqualified so they could win.Couldn't get me disqaulified from state title though.Mark



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