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Fluid In Tires

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Allan In NE

12-17-2007 05:03:41




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Well heck,

Guess I'm gonna have to either fill the tires with calcium, chain 'er up or probably both. Can sure feel some wheel slippage going on in the mornings around here. :>(

Allan

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DRL

12-17-2007 20:37:44




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Just remember to put some Bars Leak in them before you put in the valve core.



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Jim Johnson

12-17-2007 19:51:11




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Just a suggestion. Why not a three point bale fork and a bale on it?

You know these tire loading question never end. I hear beer works good. smile

Jim



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John A.

12-17-2007 19:40:56




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Alan, Why not just pick up 3 or 4 more sets of wt? Get 2 pair of splits so you can mount them on the inside and the other 2 pair of solid wt to add to the one wt on each axle you alredy have? And the up side is NO added charge when you need to get a flat fixed by your local tire shop!
We are running 330lbs of inside wt + 450 lbs of outside wt on each rear axle on a JD-4230, open-station. This tractor crow hops more than
I think it should, when the bucket is full of soil or a really heavy round bale on! It needs one more set added to be more right! I would think that the local salvage yard you deal with should have a good supply at a reasonable price. My guys have them in the $50/set neighborhood. Just my thoughts here, But The Vet and Iowa Lee think like I do. Anyway..... .
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John A.

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Steven f/AZ

12-17-2007 11:43:20




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Allan, my brother and Dad got together on a solution for a problem similar to yours... it looks something like this:

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Of course, takes quite a few calves to pay for something like that...

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Nebraska Cowman

12-17-2007 10:37:28




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Oh yeah, I've got my 16.9 X 38s loaded and several sets of weights too. And I've had a back wheel of the ground a time or two. Pretty hard to get too much ballast on a loader tractor. And to the guys beefing about calcium. I have 60 year old tractors with very good rims that had calcium in all their lives. How long do they think I am gonna last?



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Allan In NE

12-17-2007 10:52:39




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-17-2007 10:37:28  
I hear ya,

I get so tickled by these guys using the "alternative solutions".

Calcium doesn't cause problems with wheels. It's that bad tube, valve, tire or loose nut behind the wheel that causes corrosive damage.

Besides, think I'd get laughed into the next country if I told the tire shop to "Fill 'er up with anti-freeze." :>)

Allan



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RobMD

12-17-2007 14:40:35




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 10:52:39  
No, you wouldn't get laughed at. The tire dealers in my area only market Etylene glycol.



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buickanddeere

12-17-2007 15:45:08




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to RobMD, 12-17-2007 14:40:35  
The people to laugh at the the ones who keep potential problems around instead of eliminating the possibility of a problem.



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135 Fan

12-17-2007 10:21:04




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
The calcium would be good all year round. That bail is quite a ways into the next county on that loader, which doesn't help any. Dave



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old

12-17-2007 09:12:35




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Shoot hang something on the tail of that tractor if it has 3 point. What I do is use a back blade and then use suit case weights on the blade. Doing that really adds up fast and puts the weight way out back so as to counter the bale up front. I lift 2000-2500 lbs bales on my ford 841 and don't use chains but I do have fluid in the tires but with out the back blade and the 7 suit case weights on it I still would be dead in the water. Or in other words add a counter weight out back to make up for the weight your lifting up front

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RobMD

12-17-2007 09:05:28




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
You're going to need bigger and wider front tires if it ever rains around your place. The bigger front tires will keep the front end from sinking in the ground, which puts a to-and-fro stress on the front end.



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M Nut

12-17-2007 08:34:37




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
I personally like just chains. The fluid is so darn corrosive to the rims and always want to eat out around the stems. I have quit using fluid, unless it is in a tractor for doing heavy tillage work. Wet snow, chains!



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Dave from MN

12-17-2007 07:41:50




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
The 544 has 3 sets of weights on each wheel , plus the tires filled. No traction issues anymore. Have chains hanging if i need them. The new firestones and fluid cured my "cant move" issues.



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sd pete

12-17-2007 07:35:00




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
I put the 3 point bale fork on. With a 1200lb bale on the rear it helps offset the bucket weight. And with chains i can push darn near whatever i want. Works good for poop too.



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migraine

12-17-2007 07:11:12




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Allan I have a suitcase weight bracket with 3 point hookup and it will hold 12 one hundred pounders. If you put that out there on the back end of that hydro I promise you will go where you want to. When your done you set 'em down and ready for summer fallow in 5 minutes. Plus you can move it to whichever rig your using. Best setup we've found for loader work MAINLY MOVING SNOW. Plus I think you have the weights and brackets already? Fluid and chains have problems all their own and efficiency is the word at our age right? Migraine

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the tractor vet

12-17-2007 06:30:02




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Allen if your running a loader tractor with no Cal. and i don't see enough wheel weights and no weight box You are just asking for BIG problems . One can NEVER have enough weight on the back end when using a loader . As for myself when i had the 2000 I H loader on my one 706 the 18.4x 34's were loaded and had6 sets of donuts on the wheels Plus a home made weight bracket that would take 24 100 lb suitcase weights that went into the fast hitch and sometimes there was a need of more.

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Luke S

12-17-2007 06:13:24




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Allan, before you try calcium you might want to consider windshield washer fluid. That is what my tractor has that I feed with, I still have yet to have to put it in four wheel drive. I don't think it is corosive like the calcium. I am not sure of the weight difference, but it seems to work plenty good for me.



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Lee in Iowa

12-17-2007 05:49:28




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
I've got 1500 pounds of wheel weights on my 856, don't like flats with fluid. I'm too lazy to put my chains on, also I have to go down the highway some, so I put on lazy man's chains, a bale on the back fork. Lee



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coloken

12-17-2007 05:48:58




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Hasn't that thing got a 3 point? Grab the heaviest thing you see for a temp fix. Or find a short little tool bar and hang weights on it.



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onefarmer

12-17-2007 08:38:56




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to coloken, 12-17-2007 05:48:58  
He can put that spinner plow on it. Might stick out to much tho



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Allan In NE

12-17-2007 09:06:26




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to onefarmer, 12-17-2007 08:38:56  
Gee whiz, you guys.

You got me thinkin' of sellin' the cows now. :>)

Allan



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Triplerange

12-17-2007 05:07:05




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Or...stick some wheel weight on that rear axle.



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Allan In NE

12-17-2007 05:27:26




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Triplerange, 12-17-2007 05:07:05  
Actually,

If I'd just take the time to swap out that bucket for the hay fork, it would make all the difference in the world. But, I don't wanna do that until I get that combine motor planted; need the extra "reach" that the bucket gives.

Little guy does pretty darned good until the temp warms up just enough to make 'er slick.

Allan

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Allan In NE

12-17-2007 05:06:35




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 Re: Fluid In Tires in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2007 05:03:41  
Or,

Maybe use the other tractor. That little badger will go anywhere! :>)

Allan

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