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Row Crop vs. Standard

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JD 41

12-28-2007 07:27:34




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I need help to settle an argument I have with friends. All tractors are either row crop or standard, correct? A row crop is any tractor that the wheels can be adjusted for different widths of rows, correct? A row crop can be either narrow front end or wide front end, correct? A standard tractor is one that the wheels cannot be made wider or more narrow, correct? Happy New Year to all of you.

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dave guest

12-28-2007 18:41:49




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
I think wide front is safer. That's all I know.



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RobMD

12-28-2007 14:48:32




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
SOme standard versions of the 720/730 diesel have non adjustable front ends and some with adjustable front ends.

I don't see how standard vs. rowcrop presents a valid argument.



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TractormanNC

12-28-2007 11:56:43




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  

Just to add to the confusion..... In the 656 series (maybe others) IH made "International Row Crop" tractors. At the time "International" referred to utility, industrial, and wheatland types and Farmall was used to denote row crop tractors. This tractor was low like a utility but had 38 inch rear tires like the Farmall models.



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JD 41

12-28-2007 09:46:55




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
I was wrong to try to lump all tractors into either the row crop or standard category. I realize that all the other tractors people mentioned fell into other categories. I guess I was basically saying is that row crop tractors have multiple positions where the wheels could be set and didn't necessarily have to have narrow front wheels. Standard tractors didn't have as many positions their wheels could be set in. Is this a fair assumption?

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dhermesc

12-28-2007 09:32:23




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
There's Row Crop, then High Crop, I take it "standard" would be the same as Wheatland. You also have Vegetable, Orchard, Industrial (similar to standard), Utility, Compact (sub compact) and Garden.



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MarkB_MI

12-28-2007 09:21:09




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
I think the definition of "row crop" and "high crop" varies from manufacturer to manufacturer and between an individual manufacturer's models. For example, "row crop" in the Ford hundred series tractors indicates final drives that raise the tractor above the rear axles. I would think "high crop" would be a better description, but Ford called them row crop tractors.



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RAB

12-28-2007 09:54:32




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to MarkB_MI, 12-28-2007 09:21:09  
Remember here they may need to be rowcrops or perhaps just high clearance (while rumnning in "tramlines" with non-rowed seedings or plantings). Just another option possibility. Meanings can change over the years, often with a new name by a supplier, for an old idea and they then claim to be the "inventor" of the "new" technology!

Regards, RAB



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buickanddeere

12-28-2007 09:07:24




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
Deere made two cylinder standards with adjustable width front axles. The rear wheels were also adjustable for width with a rack & pinion adjustment to roll the wheel centers along the length of the axle. The Standards had the front axle under the tractor. The wide rowcrops placed the axle infront of the tractor. The Standards had much larger/wider/higher fenders and a full operator's platform floor. The Standards used a wide 26,30 or 34" rim/tire. The rowcrops used 38" and 42" rim/tires. In the 10 & 20 series New Generation. The primary difference between standards & rowcrops were the rear fenders, tire options, drawbar style and I think front axles? Rowcrop or standard the tractors could be ordered with or without rockshaft/three point hitch, pto, power steering or even hydraulics, depending. There is the legendary story of the economically minded farmer who wanted to order a replacement for his old 1940's vintage A in the early 1960's. Much to his dealers dismay he ordered a 1010 gasser narrow rowcrop without the rollo-matic front axle, no power steering, no pto, no rockshaft & no hydraulics. I don't know he was cheap or didn't like change. My Father cursed three point hitches for being in the way until he bought a snowblower, then later a semi mounted plough.

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5020 iron

12-28-2007 08:06:28




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
Well John Deeres have fixed front axles and adj. rear axles with no 3pt but you could order up a lot different combos to contradict this from the factory.



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Walt Davies

12-28-2007 07:56:16




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
Don't forget the Rice tractors boy we could go on forever here.
My 77 Kubota has adjustable front end and the rear wheels are adjusted by changing how they are bolted on.

On some tractors they have rims that can be adjusted in or out.
There are several different models that have varying ground clearance. Its one thing that you can pretty much order to fit your situation. Walt



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Too Far Gone

12-28-2007 07:43:14




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
No,There are also vegetable,Orchard,hi-crop,and industrial variations



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J.C.in AZ.

12-28-2007 07:41:32




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
I'm of the opinion you are correct. In my own farming situation I had AC WD which was narrow front and WD45 which was wide front adjustable but my WD45D when aquired was a narrow front and I got a wide front adjustable for it at a Farm Sale. My 190 was wide front adjustable while my Dads D21 was a solid wide front.The Wheatland versions of big Tractors were all non-adjustable wide fronts . Lots of variables on this subject.I don't profess to know a tiny bit on the subject but seems all the "Big" tractors came with some sort of wide front axle.

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Texasmark

12-28-2007 07:34:33




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
Yepper, yeah verily.

I have had red rowcrops with the v"d pair of front tires for running in one row on a cultivator type tractor. Doesn"t take a rocket scientist to name this one.

But this one fooled me:

I currently have a JD 4230 with a wide front end and the OEM service manual refers to it too as a row crop and elaborates as you said about it"s adjustable front axle (vs fixed in non row crop) and it"s ground clearance.

Mark

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Mike M

12-28-2007 07:33:08




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 Re: Row Crop vs. Standard in reply to JD 41, 12-28-2007 07:27:34  
Some of the standards have adjustable front ends and also some you can flip the rims around on the rear for different widths too.

And there are alot more options than just row-crop and standard you got high crop,utility,row crop utility and some others.



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