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greenblood

01-16-2008 04:58:22

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Hello not to beat the issue of RFD into the ground but,I don't know if anyone saw it or not there was a segment on there about rice farming and all the irrigating it required,in the back ground in plain view there was an irrigation pump powered by a diesel engine with a 5 foot open drive shaft nothing even covering the u-joints spinning at full speed.Folks what category do think this maneuver falls under?

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old_bc

01-16-2008 21:10:40

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Re: farm safety in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

I live in east central Arkansas and I dont' ever remember seeing an irrigation power unit with a guard over the shaft.

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Jim Johnson

01-16-2008 20:10:04

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Re: farm safety in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

What would you do? Get government envolved? And one wonders,WHAT HAPPENED TO MY FREEDOM?

And then some of you have the audacity to pick on Allan. Shame Shame Shame.

Jim

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Allan In NE

01-17-2008 07:37:14

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Re: farm safety in reply to Jim Johnson, 01-16-2008 20:10:04

Oh heck, that's okay Jim.

Takes all kinds to make the world spin.

Allan

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buickanddeere

01-17-2008 03:33:31

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Re: farm safety in reply to Jim Johnson, 01-16-2008 20:10:04

If people were more careful, the government snoops/power trippers wouldn't have an excuse to stick their noses in your business.

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buickanddeere

01-16-2008 19:20:57

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Re: farm safety in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

And people still write in to tell us they are so smart, experienced, strong & fast they don't need to waste time and money on some basic safety equipment.

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MSM

01-16-2008 16:22:32

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Re: farm safety in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

You can idiot proof any piece of equipment,only problem is the gene pool creates a better idiot.

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higgins

01-16-2008 13:58:06

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Re: predestinarianism in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

It's in the genes to self-clean the gene pool.

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Dave H (MI)

01-16-2008 09:59:29

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Re: farm safety in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

Dang...and I thought this was scary! Sure hope the big guy has a sense of humor! (:

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greenblood

01-16-2008 11:20:02

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Re: farm safety in reply to Dave H (MI), 01-16-2008 09:59:29

On the safety issue my main concern is the children who are maimed or killed by adults stupidity no- L.O.L. matter, poeople.

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Mr. Bob

01-16-2008 11:11:41

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Re: farm safety in reply to Dave H (MI), 01-16-2008 09:59:29

Somebody has a deathwish. Mr. Bob

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Dave H (MI)

01-16-2008 11:20:43

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Re: farm safety in reply to Mr. Bob, 01-16-2008 11:11:41

Look at it this way Bob, it may come after ya but it won't chase ya far! All you have to do is be able to jump backarsewards six feet from a dead squat in .005 seconds and you are home free!

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Allan In NE

01-16-2008 10:03:42

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Re: farm safety in reply to Dave H (MI), 01-16-2008 09:59:29

You boys just gotta toughen up a little is all. :>)

Allan

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Dave H (MI)

01-16-2008 11:09:18

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Re: farm safety in reply to Allan In NE, 01-16-2008 10:03:42

I dunno!!! Personally I think we need to have a contest. Everybody submits their idear of a picture that Allan WON'T be able to come up with and give him 30 minutes to respond. First guy to stump him wins.

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335LP

01-16-2008 09:02:25

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Re: farm safety in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

That's why many here close to town went to enclosed electric pumps or put a chain barb wire fence around theirs. That fences says KEEP OUT ! If the pump is on private property that should say keep out without the fence. Fence was no good here because you had to watch for rattlers by pump pipe trying to stay cool in summer heat! We put shields on all our pump drive shafts at one time but makes it a pain to keep U joints greased too. Yes accidents been know to happen with them sadly heard of one guys little girl losing her scalp of hair but he should have been preaching safety at kids making them stay away. How many people lost limbs or lives in big factories with line shafting and belts exposed too?

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Howard H.

01-16-2008 08:07:05

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Re: farm safety in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

Across the High Plains it falls under the same category as "don't stick your foot under a train wheel" or "don't lick a empty light bulb socket"...

There are thousands of irrigation wells with open drivelines... Most are checked daily.

I asked Dad one time if he'd ever heard of anyone getting hurt by one - he said years ago one guy he knew was found dead under one with a nick out of his head - they think he had a heart attack and/or just fell into it and the set screw got him...

Howard

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HENRY E NC

01-16-2008 08:58:46

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Re: farm safety in reply to Howard H., 01-16-2008 08:07:05

Farm safety is super important. In the old days people got caught in the threshing machine when thowing grain into it and losing their balance or getting to close to the edge of the mough. Also many people lost heads and arms in the old balers. But the real problem is machinery. Ber cautious around it and nevertake it for granted. I had a friend about 20 years ago that had long hair and he was working on an AC unit at the top floor of a hotel. Got his hair caught in the fan pulley and broke his neck . Didn't find him till next day. He is now a paraplegic.

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Matt from CT

01-16-2008 11:11:33

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Re: farm safety in reply to HENRY E NC, 01-16-2008 08:58:46

I have made the death presumption and helped remove the half a body remaining from a corn chopper. Other half was a red stain in the silage wagon.

Made you stop and think because you could see yourself doing the exact same thing.

A moment's inattention.

You could see the oil can on the ground that he was reaching down to pickup while oiling the machine before shutting down for lunch. As he reached down, he lifted his right leg behind him for balance, and the foot got grabbed by the chains that draw in the corn. Of everything, I'll never forget the way his hands were still gripping the sides in utter terror trying to keep himself out as the idled down machine slowly sucked him in till it finally tore off the leg and most of his abdomen.

Guards or no guards, gotta pay attention around this stuff, and even the best of us luck out often when we do something dumb. But once in a while you won't have that luck.

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Allan In NE

01-16-2008 08:14:54

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Re: farm safety in reply to Howard H., 01-16-2008 08:07:05

Yepper,

Diesel, gas, propane and shaft-drive, V-belt or hollowshft electric.

They all pump water and if you've never been off the pavement stay the he!! away from 'em. :>)

Allan

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Allan In NE

01-16-2008 08:19:52

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Re: farm safety in reply to Allan In NE, 01-16-2008 08:14:54

This one is on it's fouth or fifth "re-power".

Allan

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Allan In NE

01-16-2008 07:04:19

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Re: farm safety in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

LOL!

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KIP in MX

01-16-2008 11:33:29

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Re: farm safety in reply to Allan In NE, 01-16-2008 07:04:19

Siphon tubes!! Man, looking at that photo is like reliving an old nightmare. At least they had the little tubes. Those guys were about to lose their tarp.

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335LP

01-16-2008 08:53:24

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Re: farm safety in reply to Allan In NE, 01-16-2008 07:04:19

Great pics Allan! Weren't those the days lol.

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Allan In NE

01-16-2008 09:01:56

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Re: farm safety in reply to 335LP, 01-16-2008 08:53:24

If ya haven't irrigated that way, ya just plain don't know what work is. :>)

Allan

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Howard H.

01-16-2008 14:48:44

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Re: farm safety in reply to Allan In NE, 01-16-2008 09:01:56

It was a lot of work - but I really sort of liked it - playing in the dirt constantly with an irrigation shovel...

Marking down which rows were out on any little scrap of paper you could find...

Cool refreshing water on your foot when the mud sucked off your irrigation boot...

The excitement of finding a rattlesnake under a tarp or mouse in a siphon tube you were trying to start....

Those were the good old days!

Howard

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Vern-MI

01-16-2008 12:04:07

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Re: farm safety in reply to Allan In NE, 01-16-2008 09:01:56

We had to pump water out of the celery flats or within a week it would become a lake again. Current laws would prohibit the pumping of the lowlands to be used for farming.

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335LP

01-16-2008 09:13:31

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Re: farm safety in reply to Allan In NE, 01-16-2008 09:01:56

Yep gated pipe and sprinklers easy compared to that till you had leaks or maintenance to do then it's all work lol.

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Balatonm

01-16-2008 06:29:15

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Re: farm safety in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

Some people consider money more important than safety, Lerend that leson the hard way, almost lost my arm to a pto shaft when I was 6.

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CWL

01-16-2008 06:01:48

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Re: farm safety in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

I was always taught that the most important piece of safety equipment is yourself. You need to be aware of your surroundings and the potential hazards.

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James22

01-16-2008 08:12:07

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Re: farm safety in reply to CWL, 01-16-2008 06:01:48

I believe you made the valid point. As youngsters, we were taught never to cross a running PTO shaft even if it had a safety cover, and never unplug snapping rolls with the picker running. Also a well drilled lession was to evenly apply the brakes when going down a grade to prevent a "jackknife" accident. Perhaps we were luckly but everyone is alive and has all his limbs and fingers. Now if someone had just mentioned the evils of tobacco smoking...

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Jqmes22

01-16-2008 08:55:52

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Re: farm safety in reply to James22, 01-16-2008 08:12:07

Try lesson rather than "lession".

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John S-B

01-16-2008 05:38:39

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Re: farm safety in reply to greenblood, 01-16-2008 04:58:22

There was a soldier from Ohio that was killed during the first Gulf War by getting caught in the driveshaft on a pump unit. It happened at night and he was'nt found till daylight, not that they could've done anything for him...not pretty, I saw the pics.

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El Toro

01-16-2008 06:37:09

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Re: farm safety in reply to John S-B, 01-16-2008 05:38:39

Some people are careless and don't heed safety instructions. Had that happen where I worked, but in a different section where they uploaded 120mm ammo with more propellant for proof firing.
They were suppose to use a spanner wrench to remove the primer, then add the propellant and replace the primer with the spanner wrench. Then used an impact wrench that torqued it.

The man that had been doing this for years used the impact wrench to remove the primer and then added the propellant and used the impact wrench to
install the prime. He was lover boy and always left for lunch early to be with his girlfriend.

In 1990 we heard a loud explosion from our building. We knew the ammo processing building was down the road about 1/4 mile, but didn't think too much about it until the firetrucks and ambulance went by screaming.

When he installed the primer this time it created so much heat it detonated that round and killed him and another worker. It would've killed his girlfriend too if she hadn't been the bathroom.
A photographer friend of mine had to video the scene and take photos. He said he didn't eat for 2 days after seeing what happened. Hal

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John S-B

01-16-2008 07:18:47

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Re: farm safety in reply to El Toro, 01-16-2008 06:37:09

Seems that guy was'nt supervised very well. It also reminds me of a couple of sayings from my shop and vocational classes;

"I always though accidents happended to other guys. I did'nt realize that to the other guy, I WAS THE OTHER GUY."

"If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, when are you going to have time to do it right the SECOND time?"

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El Toro

01-16-2008 10:55:05

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Re: farm safety in reply to John S-B, 01-16-2008 07:18:47

This was with the Federal Government and they have strict regulations that should be followed.
His supervisor should've verbally reprimanded him
and if that didn't help give it to him in writing. Any more incidents give him about 3 days off without pay. The other man killed had just retired from the Army and was an innocent bystander. I have seen one of those 120mm rounds blow a tank hull clear off the M1A1 tank. Hal

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