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jim from ND

01-22-2008 13:35:45




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Hey folks. I was just wondering if there was any western fans out there. My daughter had me watch that new western 3:10 To Yuma. Nothing compared to the original in my opinion. Just wondering what your thoughts on it were. I can't get enough of the older ones. But nearly all of the newer westerns seem to be so generic and have no taste. Don't get me wrong, 3:10 was a good movie. Just an absolute downer in comparison.

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SheldonS

01-23-2008 09:56:57




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
I loved the mini series "Lonesome Dove"

And the sequel/predecesor whatever "Comanche Moon" that just played last week? was good as well.

Robert Duvall plays a really good cowboy. And the guy that played his character in Comanche moon did a really good job at acting just like Duvall, with his hands, and body, etc.
I really enjoyed it...



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dave2

01-23-2008 05:26:00




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to Tom from Ontario, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
Over the years, I have collected all of Louis Lamour's books and almost all of JT Edson's. Don't see many westerns here in Germany, the ones you do are either Italo westerns or Americans ones dubbed in German (don't quite cut it), but I read my books now and then. Reminds me... they've been boxed up for about 10 years now, time for another go round.

Someone loaned me a series that was on HBO a while back that really sucked, can't remember the name but it had Stacy Keach in it.

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philcaseinWPA

01-23-2008 05:12:44




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
I found a paperback in a used bookstore of short western stories that had all been made into movies. 3:10 to Yuma was one of the stories. I don't think I will watch the movie, can't really believe it will be as good as I imagined the story from reading it.
High Noon was also one of the stories but it had a different title. Several others but I can't remember all the titles or movies that were made based on the stories.
Phil

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fergienewbee

01-23-2008 04:28:11




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
Ditto on "Tombstone." Kilmer and Curt Russle much better than Kostner, although Dennis Quaid was good as Doc. "Tombstone" had lots of great actors. And Dana Delaney trips my trigger like Ellen Barkin. Gotta love those redheads.

Also liked "Quiggly Down Under." My 16-year-old daughter doesn't think there's any such thing as a good western. Kids nowdays. I grew up with Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, Fury, etc. Times have sure changed.
Larry

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dave2

01-22-2008 23:49:03




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to John S-B, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  

tork rench said: (quoted from post at 17:02:37 01/22/08) Hey does anyone know what movies John Wayne dies in.


Green Berets, The Shootist, The Alamo, and The Cowboys. Any more?



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rednekelmo

01-23-2008 05:31:48




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to dave2, 01-22-2008 23:49:03  
the sands of Iwo Jima.



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Walt Davies

01-22-2008 22:59:32




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
Well not a movie but "Lonesome Dove" was and still is great to watch.
Walt



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chvet73

01-22-2008 19:52:01




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
I'm glad to see you guys know what good movies are. I agree with everything said on this post. Long live the Duke!



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in-too-deep

01-22-2008 19:04:05




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
I really liked it until the last 10 minutes. The ending was disappointing. I plan to watch the original just as soon as I can get my paws on it.



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HuskerMedic

01-22-2008 17:37:41




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
Two newer westerns I've seen and liked are "Open Range" with Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall and "Broken Trail" with Robert Duvall and Thomas Haden Church, the guy who played the mechanic on "Wings". I thought Church's performance was extremely good. "Open Range" has what I think is one of the best gunfight scenes in recent history in a western.

That being said, I still love the old stuff from John Wayne. I would have to rate El Dorado (with Robert Mitchum) as my favorite, but I'll watch about any of his westerns.

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Spook

01-22-2008 17:23:13




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
Best modern western := Clint Eastwood in the "Unforgiven". Some good sight gags in the movie, too.



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7812

01-22-2008 16:16:25




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
I know the Duke died in the Cowboys. My all time favorite western has to be Tombstone. Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday. "Must be a peach of a hand" "Why Kate your not wearing a bustle" and "Ike poker must not be your game. I know lets have a spelling contest." Now that is good stuff. 7812



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Lee in Iowa

01-22-2008 18:18:35




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to 7812, 01-22-2008 16:16:25  
"I've got two guns I'll shoot you both." That movie was a favorite of mine too. Lee



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JBMac

01-23-2008 19:08:25




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to Lee in Iowa, 01-22-2008 18:18:35  
I'm might be a little younger than some of you fellas, 30, but my grandaddy and I watched alot of the Duke. Tombstone is my favorite though.. "JC, It's like playin' cards with my brother's kids" or "You gonna do something, or stand there and bleed?



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J.C.in AZ.

01-22-2008 16:31:27




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to 7812, 01-22-2008 16:16:25  
You have my vote for "Tombstone ". I'm your Huckleberry!



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Ultradog MN

01-22-2008 16:28:40




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to 7812, 01-22-2008 16:16:25  
Dittos on the Tombstone and Val Kilmer.
Great Movie!
Say Huckleberry...



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tork rench

01-22-2008 16:02:37




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
Hey does anyone know what movies John Wayne dies in.



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rednekelmo

01-23-2008 05:40:40




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to tork rench, 01-22-2008 16:02:37  
I found this on allexperts.c@m

John Wayne died in 8 films for definite, and a further two, depending on how you want to look at it.

"Central Airport"
"Reap the Wild Wind"
"The Fighting Seabees"
"Wake of the Red Witch"
"The Sands of Iwo Jima"
"The Alamo"
"The Cowboys"
"The Shootist"

He was already dead at the start of "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance", and most of the film is a flashback to when he was alive. It is just stated that he died, but there is no actual death scene.

In "The Sea Chase" it is left to the audience to decide whether or not he died. The romantic among us like to think that he and Lana Turner were able to escape from the sinking ship at the end of the film, but it is not made clear.

Glad to be of help. Cheers..... ...Mel.

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L.C.Gray

01-22-2008 16:17:34




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to tork rench, 01-22-2008 16:02:37  
Only 3 I can think of,"The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance", "The Cowboys" and "The Shootist"



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Walt Davies

01-22-2008 15:59:31




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
Burt Lancaster in "The Unforgiven" "High Noon" "The Hanging Tree"
"From here to Eternity"
"The Angel and the Badman"
and of course "How the West was Won"

But one of my favorites was "Is a Mad Mad Mad world" staring just about everyone.
Walt

PS just heard on TV that one of the stars of Broke Back mountain (Heath Ledger)found dead in his apartment in NY.



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JoshuaGA

01-22-2008 15:33:55




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
How about The Over The Hill Gang. Once Upon A Texas Train is Willie Nelson's remake of the former. Pretty good too. But nothing beats the Duke. Favorite of the duke is McLintock, but all are good.

JoshuaGA



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Dachshund

01-22-2008 15:03:27




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
I like the older ones, also, but one of the "new" westerns I liked was Open Range.



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trucker40

01-22-2008 14:43:10




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
Charles Bronsons good too.Saw 2 of his movies last night,Chino and another one.



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num hutz

01-22-2008 14:42:26




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
Maybe you should see Broke Back Mountain. just kidding fellas definitely not my style.



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jim from ND

01-22-2008 14:51:30




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to num hutz, 01-22-2008 14:42:26  
Are you telling me that I should watch Broke Back Mountain? I break a lot of things, but never another guys back, and definetly not by being his lover. Thanks anyway. You keep that $hit to yourself. I'll stick with my faster horses, older whiskey, and younger WOMEN. Although the wife ain't too young any more. But she's still younger then me so she suits me very well.



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J Kemp

01-22-2008 14:08:35




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
The best Show is one thatTakes You away from your Own troubles and Entertains You while you leave Problems somewhere else .And . makes You feel better after you See it. Modern Movies have far too much , sissy stuff,BROKEN TRAIL .. real life looking bloody Gore crap ,, Vulgarity that does little to enhance the plot ,,AND FAR TO MANNY PYRO TECHNIQUES FOR ACTION ENHANCEMENT S <<< TOOOO PHONEY>>>>>>>>>>> ,,, Private Ryan was a good Modern Movie ,Classics Like the GOOD BAD and UGLY .,Live and let Die ,BLAZING SADDLEs,,, I long For that Syle Most the time whenever I am watching a movie for the 1st time and it is .I look to the info and the garbage was made in the last 20 years.. Honestly I prefer moveis made All the way back to the Silent Era until Ferris Buehlors Day OFF Era.. Common Sense without need to over impress and capture all audiences Cynical Jim

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LumbrJakMan

01-22-2008 14:04:35




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
The Duke..." Fear will keep a Man alive",,,

"No I aint goinna hit ya , SLAM The HELL I aint "



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jim from ND

01-22-2008 14:12:21




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to LumbrJakMan, 01-22-2008 14:04:35  
How about ole John Wayne as Rooster Cogburn in True Grit. "Fill yer hands ya son of a b****!" And in The Shootist. "I won't be wronged I won't be insulted and I won't be layed a hand on."
And perhaps in The Searchers. "Few men could hide from them; none had the courage to face them."
That's the kind of stuff that will never be made again and that future generations had better get a look at for reference on the way to be.

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Will- Tx.-Mn.

01-22-2008 13:59:08




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
I think it sucked

Give me Randolph Scott,and the Duke anyday
also Clint Eastwoods westerns...

~Will



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Aaron Ford

01-23-2008 09:50:40




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to Will- Tx.-Mn., 01-22-2008 13:59:08  
(Hold hand over heart and sing) RAN-DOLPH SCOTT!!!

Sorry, Blazing Saddles was one of my faves...

Aaron



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Jim in N M

01-22-2008 13:55:53




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
You must be in my boat, I love ALL the old westerns and record them on my "Dish" recorder.I don"t like these new westerns at all. Jim in N M



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loveshisallis

01-22-2008 13:49:40




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to jim from ND, 01-22-2008 13:35:45  
You can;t beat Randolph Scott or the Duke, either!



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BarryfromIA

01-22-2008 16:51:58




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 Re: what a way to go..... in reply to loveshisallis, 01-22-2008 13:49:40  
Next time I'll knock your da** head off.



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