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bullfrog

01-31-2008 02:54:53




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How much disk could a 85 HP tractor pull?




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aFORDable

01-31-2008 09:01:27




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 Re: Horse Power in reply to bullfrog, 01-31-2008 02:54:53  
I'd say in the 12 - 15 ft. range if you just want a simple answer without all of the tech talk. The best thing to do is check with neighbor farmers to see what the soil texture/condition is in your area and get their input.



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Texasmark

01-31-2008 08:10:53




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 Re: Horse Power in reply to bullfrog, 01-31-2008 02:54:53  
No set answer. Too many variables. I have been trying to get the right combination of plow type, width and tractor to do my primary plowing. I think I am there finally.

I also think that for a disc/disc type harrow to be used as a plow, you need to move at a reasonable speed to get the dirt to break up and lay right. Around here, the plow of choice is the disc harrow type. Soil is heavy Houston clay and can be go from goo to rock hard; can't plow either. Sod breaking, vs first cut of an existing field in preparation for next year's crop, vs cleaning up weeds emerging on recently plowed ground, vs just wanting to break up clods, all have their own uniqueness.

I use two discs and a spike (sweeps) cultivator to do my tillage. The first is a medium-heavy duty JD H1120 (11' 20" deep cone discs)tandem disc "harrow" which is "my plow".

I run this in B1-B2 of a C4 (16 sp) tranny on a JD 4230 with cab rated about 85 drawbar, 100 PTO. The tractor usually works it's way up to redline temp after a couple of hours of running on a hot day with the AC running but I want the speed to get the dirt breaking the way I want it to , like I said. So I plow for a couple of hours and go home and do something else.

Next comes a regular disc 11' medium duty tandem with 18" discs which I run in B2-B3.

The lightest is a 11' cultivator with 15 10" sweeps and 3 rows of spring fingers that I run on my new Branson 57 PTO or Ford 4600 52 PTO in a medium gear.

Just to give you some idea as to what I have found to work for me over the years.

Mark

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Texasmark

01-31-2008 08:15:24




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 Re: Horse Power in reply to Texasmark, 01-31-2008 08:10:53  
Correction: On the Deere C4 should be D4; 4x4=16. C4 is the Branson which is 3x4=12.

Sorry,

Mark



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kyhayman

01-31-2008 06:51:02




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 Re: Horse Power in reply to bullfrog, 01-31-2008 02:54:53  
I pull a 12' IH disc with 86 hp. Pulls fine it fine. With a heavy drag behind the disc I wouldnt want much more than that though.



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Gene Dotson

01-31-2008 06:47:30




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 Re: Horse Power in reply to bullfrog, 01-31-2008 02:54:53  
Depends on how the tractor is set up and tire size. Generally 15 or 16 foot with 85 horsepower. Dual wheels are a must for discing freshly plowed ground... Gene



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Allan In NE

01-31-2008 05:49:54




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 Re: Horse Power in reply to bullfrog, 01-31-2008 02:54:53  
18 foot.



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TomTex

01-31-2008 05:29:56




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 Re: Horse Power in reply to bullfrog, 01-31-2008 02:54:53  
What kind of disk? A heavy duty Offset disk with 24 inch disks on 9 inch spacings, used for tillage, requires about 9 to 10 PTO HP per foot in soils where disk can load up. Next category is tandem disks, some are more of a disk finishing harrow and some are heavier, but require a lot less HP than an Offset disk. Next category is disk breaking plow, which use about 30 inch disks each on a seperate axle, for primary tillage comparable to moldboard plows. I am sure there are others, but these are the basic 3 kinds around these parts. Tom

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Gary from Muleshoe

01-31-2008 04:27:06




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 Re: Horse Power in reply to bullfrog, 01-31-2008 02:54:53  
We used to pull a 13ft. disk with a 730 Case, that's about a 60 hp tractor. It handled it well in all conditions.



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J Schwiebert

01-31-2008 03:33:28




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 Re: Horse Power in reply to bullfrog, 01-31-2008 02:54:53  
You also need to consider if you are talking where you want it to really cut in or is you have already plowed or some other primary tillage and then are using it for more of a finish tillage operation. We pull 21 feet behing 160 horsepower and for fist time we have had a few places we had to let the wings up. We have done secondary tillage in the fall with a 130 H. P. tractor and can move right along at 5-6 MPH.

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