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Iowa Farmland Value 1981 and 2007

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noncompos

02-01-2008 14:05:12




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Looking for some price comparisons, and ran across Iowa State U's Iowa farmland value table, showing $2147 per acre in 1981 (just before the break)(up from $261 in 1960), $1857 in 2000 and $3908 in 2007 (State averages).
Other sites give 1980 car prices (presumably Ford/Chev full-size 4dr) $5900-6000, gas .95 ,1.03 and 1.25. (Granted these are all averages, and local prices would vary widely at times).
So: in '81, around 2.8 ac would buy a new car, but in 2007, assuming same size car at 20K, would take 5+ ac...(hopefully, the 07 car would last longer).
For gas, a 1981 ac, at $1.03, would buy 2084 gals, and at $1.25 would buy 1717 gals, while a 2007 ac, at $2.75, would buy 1421 gals.
While it's hard to apply averages to specific locations, do any of you in Iowa, operating since the 80s, feel land values are low (in relation to what the money would buy) compared to the 1981 peak?

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T_Bone

02-02-2008 15:30:18




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 Re: Iowa Farmland Value 1981 and 2007 in reply to noncompos, 02-01-2008 14:05:12  
In 76' I bought a new dodge Power Wagon club cab, 400ci, lwb, 4wd and paid $6100 with T&L

In 79' I bought a new T-bird all the goodies, $7300 with T&L

Gas was $.75/gal average.

In 02', I bought a new F350 DRW, CC, PSD, 6spd, $34289 with T&L. It about killed me to write that check.

Fuel was $1.55/gal

In 74' I bought our first home, $231/PITI/mth, $23000. Sold it one year latter for $53k and bought 3 more houses and sold 2 of them before the big price fall in 78'.

I bought 3.3a for $5800 in 88'. My property tax evaluation in 2006 was $12.5k. In 2007 it was $25k. In 2008 it'll be $77k.

When I first stated driving in 65', gas $0.19/gal.

Prime farm land here is $35k/a as there building homes just as fast as it can be bought as the farm land is with-in 45miles of S.Phoenix with indian land inbetween. Of course our local electrical utility is the one buying the land and building the homes while there raising our utility rates.

Farm land in 89' was $10k/a in large parcels.

About the only figure that was totaly out of line was the 02 F350 pick-up had increased 525% where wages had only increased 340% and fuel costs.

T_Bone

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noncompos

02-02-2008 11:08:48




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 Re: Iowa Farmland Value 1981 and 2007 in reply to noncompos, 02-01-2008 14:05:12  
It"s always difficult, when using averages like the Iowa Univ, to tell how well it applies to particular local areas. At 9k per acre, an acre would seem to be much closer to the value assigned to the 81 peak (in purchasing power, if the acre was sold for cash). On the other hand, if good land brings 9k, then middling or poorer land would drag down the average.
It"s all too easy to think "Wow! I got this place for $10K 10-20 yrs ago, and now it"s worth $50K!! I really hit it big!!---The true valuation, and whether you"re better off financially, is what the 50K dollars would buy today in relation to what the 10K dollars would"ve bought at the time of purchase, and there"re so many variables that it"s only an approximation at best.

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bobia

02-02-2008 06:52:22




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 Re: Iowa Farmland Value 1981 and 2007 in reply to noncompos, 02-01-2008 14:05:12  
It is not what it brings but what you can farm out of it,If the etokal thing fails it will be bad news. up here in NW Ia a farmer paid 9,00 an acre just so he could have a place to apply manure out of a hog confinement . With fuel fertilzer chemicals etc they have locked into over needing over 3 dollars a bushel. hope for rain. sometimes you can rent cheaper than own



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paul

02-01-2008 18:49:20




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 Re: Iowa Farmland Value 1981 and 2007 in reply to noncompos, 02-01-2008 14:05:12  
I think any farmer in Iowa would morgage his kids to be able to buy good farm land for under $4000 today. Last parcel I heard topped $9000.

Here in MN, good average is about $4500 today. Saw an ad in the paper, people were trying to sell 1/3 intrest in 160 acres for $1800 an acre with 1st option to farm it. Seems like a legal nighmare to buy into, minority interest in it, who decides what fair rent is, who decides on tile, etc. And for that money, no bargin price either!

--->Paul

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