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utupuller

03-03-2008 15:06:47

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Can someone please tell me the difference between a standard tread and a wheatland model if there are any difference's.

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higgins

03-04-2008 08:46:04

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Re: wheatland models in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 15:06:47

Really the same thing. Old manuals called them standard. Wheatland came into being through someone trying to sound fancy. Both refer to wide front end that was attached so the whole axle shaft turned at the center post rather than the wheels having their own pivot points. Out in the big wheat growing areas the fields were so big that they only turned rarely and this setup was cheaper.

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massey333

03-04-2008 06:51:46

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Re: wheatland models in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 15:06:47

There is no correct answer to Standard vs Wheatland because every Manf.had his own version.Some only made one version,others made several(Standard Tread,Rice,Western,Wheatland)All based on the same tractor,but had Different Wheel(tire)sizes,Clutches(hand vs Foot),diff fender Configurations and some even offered adjustable tread spacings,but still built on the low 4 wheel Configuration frame base.John Deere built I believe 4 or 5 diff.Standard tread 4010s,we had a4010 Standard with adj.tread width that didn't look anything like the wide front Row Crops.So there is no correct or wrong answer to the Standard vs.Wheatland.

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Zach from TX

03-03-2008 16:40:09

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Re: wheatland models in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 15:06:47

just different names for the same type of tractor. Large heavy generally higher horsepower tractors designed to pull. I have a GB Moline, a Case LA and a JD D. They are all similiar as far as design.

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utupuller

03-03-2008 16:37:31

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now let me ask this in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 15:06:47

I am a stock antique tractor puller, in classes under 7500 you see very few standards. Wouldn't it be safe to assume that a standard should out pull a row crop?

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buickanddeere

03-03-2008 17:40:38

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Re: now let me ask this in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 16:37:31

A tall narrow tire such as a 15.5X38 on hard surfaces such as a puling track will out pull a 23.1X26. Out in the field with loose soil. The wheatland/standard"s 23.1X26 will outpull the 15.5X38. The 23.1X26 will ride smoother too.

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buickanddeere

03-03-2008 17:40:37

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Re: now let me ask this in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 16:37:31

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55 50

03-03-2008 17:18:56

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Re: now let me ask this in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 16:37:31

No that"s not a fair assupmtion. If the tractors are indeed in the same weight class, there should be very little difference (maybe no difference) between a standard and a row-crop for pulling ability.

I agree with one of the other posters here that there is no difference between a so
called "wheatland" and a "standard". In terms of the "titles", a lot depends on what part of the country you are and a person"s preferences. I don"t like the term wheatland, because many of the STANDARDS (which is what they really are) are used (or were used) in areas where little or no wheat (or other small grain) is raised. Standard is the much-preferred title (at least to me!) as it carry"s a much broader meaning.

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LenND

03-03-2008 18:24:19

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Re: now let me ask this in reply to 55 50, 03-03-2008 17:18:56

Some of the salesmen and auctioneers here used to call the older IHC W9's Wheatland because they came from factory with a hand clutch and tires that were different than normal tractor.

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utupuller

03-03-2008 16:33:40

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Re: wheatland models in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 15:06:47

Asking about the tractors

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Walt davies

03-03-2008 16:30:55

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Re: wheatland models in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 15:06:47

This is my old Wheatland tractor. But are you asking about the tires or the tractor.
Walt

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Jon Hagen

03-03-2008 16:21:05

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Re: wheatland models in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 15:06:47

In the high desert, prairie pothole region of ND, the wheatland tractor was the norm and the row crop was the rare oddball, except for the red river valley area.
Most wheatland tractors are low to the ground, with a low, non adjustable wide front axle, rear tred is non adjustable, and rear fenders are wide with nearly the top 180 degrees of the wheel covered to block dust and dirt. The draw bars are usually the wide swing roller variety, with a 3 pt being very rare. Mounted or semi mounted impliments were never popular here except for the little AC tractors.

When row crops like sunflower became popular in the 70's, many fabrication shops did a good business making add on 3 pt hitches and the machinery jockeys imported semi loads of used row crop tractors from the row crop states. Now with the roundup ready row crops, no one cultivates, so row crop tractors are again not much in demand.

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ken in texas

03-03-2008 15:33:39

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Re: wheatland models in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 15:06:47

oops missread the question..... ..

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03-03-2008 15:21:45

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Re: wheatland models in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 15:06:47

Depends somewhat on manufacturer- IHC general terms: Wheatland, old standard, or W models had wide front ends and lower frames, less ground clearance than Farmalls with tricle steering, high frames made to use a cultivator in row crop use. Ws meant to pull equipment, Farmalls often had other frame mounted equipment availabe, Frame sections had mounting holes various places. Other equipment could vary- PTO, Hydraulics, Pulleys, but was not really restricted to one or the other. RN

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utupuller

03-03-2008 15:43:36

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Re: wheatland models in reply to RN, 03-03-2008 15:21:45

So are wheatlands just a standard tread with IH lingo? Seems to me I have seen JD's and MM's with standard wheatland models and plan standard models.

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03-03-2008 17:28:27

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Re: wheatland models in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 15:43:36

Wheatland term seemed to be derived from W prefix of IHC which was the old standard tractor as compared to Farmall name/term. Wheatland model was a Moline or something else yellow- saw the wheatland decal on a big yellow thing at tractor show. Others have noted adjustable axles and wheels different on some others, I am mostly familiar with the IHC. As others noted the term wheatland tended to be used on large pullers, standard woulde be small to medium size- as a Ford 9N or AC B. Some wide fronts with adjustable axles and high clearance made for field work in 50s, 60s- the same engine in a lower frame would be termed Utility and be used with loaders and mounted equipment other than cultivators. RN

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ken in texas

03-03-2008 15:19:51

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Re: wheatland models in reply to utupuller, 03-03-2008 15:06:47

If I remember correctly,the wheatland has non adjustable front and real axels,and the rowcrop tractor s wheels will addjust in and out to match the row width.Does that sound right?? It,s been a long time for me.

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