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Raleigh boulwar

03-05-2008 07:23:20

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You know when I was doing years of research on tractors to buy I point to the John Deere 4020. So I bought this JD 4020 January of 2007. Here is the thing it seems sort of big..yes I know it should be the right size for 50 acres of farming....But would anyone consider swaping a GOOD John deere 4020 for a Smaller 45 HP Mitusbishi or Yanmar?

Is there any advantages to going to a smaller machine, like safty or stability?

My biggest Fear on this tractor is turning it over...POINT BLANK!!! If it weren't for that I would be FINE!!!

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super99

03-05-2008 17:15:15

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

Sound like if your going to trade it off, you should get a newer tractor with a factory cab with built in rollover protection, since your a Deere man, 4230 with a sound guard body. ANY tractor can and will roll over if put in the right situation. Wear your seat belt!! Don't know what all you are doing with 4020, but duals make a world of difference. Fluid in tires keeps the weight low. Keep loader low, look over the bucket, not under it. If you aren't comfortable on a hillside, STAY OFF OF IT!!!! Chris

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KYfarm

03-05-2008 16:30:49

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

after YEARS or research you decided that the best tractor one could have is a JD 4020 (which is well oversized for anything on 50 acres) but yes is one of the best tractors made if you go on reputation and current price

but now you want to trade it on a yanmar or mitsubishi did your years on research not teach you anything?

If you must get rid of the deere get something like a Ford 5610, you'll love it, I think that is more the size you are looking for, they even come with locking differentials i think.

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HeyPigFarmer

03-05-2008 15:24:40

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

If your worried about tipping over, get a ROPS. Salvage yards all across America have them.
If you go up the slope, not with it you will never roll the thing.
So far all my life, my dads and my Grandpa's we've never rolled a tractor or have witnessed one that was rolled. Use some common sense and you will be fine.

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dellwoodbu

03-05-2008 10:09:03

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

Just bought a ROPS for my father in laws 4020. Deere sells them for basically cost because of safety. Around 600-700 bucks. Almost surely pocket change compared to the price of the tractor. It will not prevent rollover but almost certainly will save your life if it does roll and you are wearing the seat belt. Keep ballast in the tires and weights on the front you should be fine. GO SLOW. Grandpa mowed ditches with a 3010 narrow front a younger farmer wouldn't touch with a 4440. Set the wheels wide, you will feel uncomfortable long before it really rolls if you follow all those precautions. In a small tractor you usually "feel" safer because you are lower to the ground, in reality I suspect they are more likely to roll.

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Raleigh

03-05-2008 10:48:48

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to dellwoodbu, 03-05-2008 10:09:03

You this is what I think in my mind...I will go along on this thing and get on the side of a slope and feel like it is going to tip over...Yes for some reason when I get on my buddies Yanmar it feels like it is safer cause IT IS closer to the ground!!!!

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Mike M

03-05-2008 09:45:45

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

50 acres !!! Man you need to get more tractors !!!

I have 12 and only have 3 acres. Largest is a 720 diesel JD Dad has a 4020 with loader and used to have 14 acres. He may only have 8 or 10 today ? There are things that 4020 can do that a smaller tractor can't. Especially if you are lifting and moving things with that loader. I have even had a couple of things that 4020 was too small for. It will only lift around 4000 lbs. I don't think we have complained about it being too big ? except maybe for some rutts in the yard when it is very soft. It is very rocky shale here so it drains well.

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Tradititonal Farmer

03-05-2008 09:27:07

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

When its all said and done in my opinion the bigger tractors are safer.A small hole or a jerk from a piece of machinery that might cause a little tractor to turn over will not even jar a big tractor.How steep is your land? My farm of 180 acres goes from 400 ft above sea leavel to over 1000 ft above sea leavel ridng with me farming would cause some flatlanders to get nose bleed others just wet their britches(LOL)

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TXFarmallFan

03-05-2008 09:05:31

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

Im not a Deere man by any means, but if it was me, I'd sell the Deere, then probably buy a bit smaller of a machine and have some $$ left over. Those old 4020s bring ridiculous money in my neck of the woods.

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thurlow

03-05-2008 08:56:31

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

Been bush-hogging these hills just behind the house 5 or 6 times per year for years and years..... ..SAFELY. They're just as steep as they appear.

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cj3b_jeep

03-05-2008 08:43:51

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

I've never seen a 45 hp yanmar or mitsubishi, the largest I've ever seen was around 30-35 horse. You're 4020 probably outweighs them by a ton, has a much wider stance and would be far easier to get parts for. You can get a ROPS made for it and install a seatbelt, that would help a lot. You want to talk overkill? I have a David Brown 880e, 40 horse or so, on 6 acres and change! In using it over the last few years, I've found that I could go a bit smaller, but not much. Last year I pulled a haywagon over from the neighbor's house loaded with all of the wood to build my 24x32 pole barn. Had to be 10-15,000 lbs. My DB did not even think about the weight. When it comes to tractors, overkill is much better than underkill. Perhaps a second tractor is what you need, something in the 25-30 horse range for smaller jobs.

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03-05-2008 08:22:53

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

I believe you can get roll bars from Deere still for the 4020s. I would look into that before getting rid of it. Compact tractors roll over too.

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rrlund

03-05-2008 07:47:14

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

Ain't it amazing how we percieve things different than we used to. A 4020 for 50 acres? That's the kind of acerage we used to farm with a B Allis or an 8N Ford. My uncle farmed 1000 acres with a 4020. There's a guy here in town that farmed an entire section in Nebraska,all alone with an Allis WD45. I'm WAY over equiped farming 300 acres with a 135 horse tractor and I know it.

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neblinc

03-05-2008 07:41:36

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to Raleigh boulware, 03-05-2008 07:23:20

The only way you are going to overturn a tractor is by being careless while operating it. Common sense prevails in all aspects of operating equipment.

Looks to me that you have built up a fear of this large tractor that you need to overcome. A smaller tractor will most likely have a narrower wheelbase than what you have now.

Do yo have a wide front end on it? I am not familiar with JD tractors at all.

Randy

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Raleigh

03-05-2008 08:16:49

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to neblinc, 03-05-2008 07:41:36

Yes its a wide front...I might adjust it out EVEN WIDER!!

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thurlow

03-05-2008 08:09:28

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Re: The Possibilty of trading tractors.. in reply to neblinc, 03-05-2008 07:41:36

Wide front end? Been lots of discussion about whether a tricycle front-end is inherently more dangerous. I've got tens of thousands of hours of 'seat' time in the hills of West TN, starting in '52 with an "H" Farmall; never came close to turning anything over.

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