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O/T: Internet Service at the shop??

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JCSinGA

03-08-2008 10:47:33

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I've set up an older desktop PC at my shop (where I work on tractors, so it wont be too far O/T) so I can print out invoices, sales contracts etc.

It is Internet capable and I do have a phone line but I dont care to have another Internet bill for the shop. I have DSL and a wireless router here at home but have had the laptop at the shop and evidently it's too far away because I cant get Internet there.

I'm pretty sure the computer I put at the shop does not have a wireless card installed. Is there some doohickey that can be purchased that will allow this computer to work off a wireless connection? Then after that I'm gonna need some kind of antenna or range extender?

Does anyone understand what I'm trying to do and can offer some advice on what needs to be done? Thanks

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old bc

03-09-2008 21:42:53

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

My shed is 65 feet from my house and I ran Cat5 wire in the air about 5 years ago. It is still working fine and has been through a couple of ice storms. You can run it up to 300 feet.

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Dan-IA

03-09-2008 13:43:03

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

Yes.

These work everywhere on your side of the transformer on the light pole:

Link

It's technically not BPL so the amateur radio operators shouldn't mind so much, but it works from house to shop-I did it before I got around to burying a cable.

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Kelly C

03-08-2008 17:50:07

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

You might also check the control pannel for your DSL modem. I install DSL for Qwest so am pretty familiar with our modems.
We use 2wire brand modems and these seem to be pretty good.
Most wireless modems have multiple power settings for the radio.
To get to the control pannel you use a web browser. Type in>Link
This>Link is the most common used.
That will bring up the control pannel. Find the section for your wireless setting and see if there is an adjustment for radio power.
2wire modems have 10 settings and are defult at 6 so you can bump it up to 10 to extend the range.

Suppose to have a range of 1500' but I have never seen one get that. Almost every thing conflicts with the signal.
Also the card you use makes a difference. My 2wire pci card runs the 300 feet to my shop no problem.
Purchased a Belkin wireless G USB adapter and cant get that to work at the other end of the house let alone the shop.

2.4 g wireless phones really play havok with wireless networks. The signal is in the same range.

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omahagreg

03-08-2008 16:34:34

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

I have a garage on my property, probably 40 feet away from the house. I ran cable tv out there, use a cordless for phone, but cannot make my wireless internet reach. The house has steel siding, and the garage has steel siding. All I can figure is all of that steel is soaking up the signal. Greg

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Gene-AL

03-08-2008 14:02:48

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

I don't have any good solution for you, but:

Your old desktop computer will accept a wireless adapter card if your Windows edition isn't too old (read the wireless card box for requirments).
But, 600 feet is at least 10-times the maximum normal range of a wireless router. I run one in a separate building about 50-feet away from the wireless router but have to put up with occasional neighbor's 2.4Ghz wireless phone interference. A wireless router's antenna and the computer card's antenna have to be located carefully for best signal transmission/reception between them.

After using DSL, if you can tolerate the slow speed of a dial-up modem, which your old computer probably already has, you might be able to use your ISP's alternate local dial-up number for the Internet if one was provided along with with your DSL service subscription. I don't know if they can both to be used at the same time.

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Sean Feeney 2

03-08-2008 13:58:13

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

www.radiolabs.com/Articles/wifi-antenna.html

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Dave Sherburne NY

03-08-2008 13:26:43

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

How will you get any real work done if you have internet in your shop?

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Kirk Grau

03-08-2008 12:31:23

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

This is pretty similar to my situation, but I don't have quite as much distance to cover so my experience might not apply to you. My distance is more on the order of 120' between my office and the house on the same property. Since I wanted/needed wired access for the office I set the router out there. The kids have laptops that they use in the house. I invested in larger antennas for the router and a wireless extender that sits in the house. Total cost about $150 for the extras 3 years ago. Go to Staples or someplace similar and look around. I bet you can make it work, but might have to worry about signal strength at that distance. Consider setting the router or wireless access point near a window facing the remote building and the range extender facing the router. If your office computer is new enough to have USB ports it is pretty easy to add a USB wireless receiver to achieve what you trying to do. FWIW, my equipment is all Linksys.

Good Luck,

Kirk

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Sean Feeney 2

03-08-2008 11:24:14

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

"evidently it's too far away because I cant get Internet there." Who told you that, if its the Phone company Did they try to sell you another set -up, get the footage, and I'll try to ask a buddy if he knows. Are you in a very rural area?

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JCSinGA

03-08-2008 11:40:40

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to Sean Feeney 2, 03-08-2008 11:24:14

I tried my laptop computer (that I use on a wireless connection here at home) at the shop and it would not connect there.

I'm sure the phone company would only be interested in a new set-up.

Probably going to be more than 600ft., not so rural anymore.

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Joe Pro

03-08-2008 11:22:16

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

If you have a phone line in the shop, you can get a dsl filter for it and a cheap router( not wireless) and hard wire everything, I would try to stay away from wireless. I've never had good luck with it in our 2 story house and would never go to another building, also there is problems sometimes it wont connect, you can run a line to the shop from your house, because with the dsl you dont need a 2nd phone line, Call your phone company for help

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Ray

03-08-2008 11:09:02

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

I use my home phone line for my shop internet.My house is on the other side of the highway from my shop. The phone company gave me an off premise extension that allows me to use my shop and house line,i just need a 2 line phone.It only cost 1.50 per month.

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Roy in georgia

03-08-2008 10:55:27

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 10:47:33

is your shop at your home if so you can get a wireless router from your choice of places I saw one at Wal-mart but know nothing about it as far as range but I'm sure it will cover a distance

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JCSinGA

03-08-2008 11:29:31

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to Roy in georgia, 03-08-2008 10:55:27

The shop is on the property but probably 600+ft away as the crow flies.

So another wireless router hooked to the computer at the shop plus the one I have here at home may get me what I need?

I'd like to find out more about the range, I'll do some looking. Thanks

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Roy in georgia

03-08-2008 12:00:42

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Re: O/T: Internet Service at the shop?? in reply to JCSinGA, 03-08-2008 11:29:31

you should only need one wireless router for both but you may have to upgrade for the distance also the pc needs to have the disc loaded into it for it to communicate with the router you have

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