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4 Bottom

03-12-2008 07:29:58

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Now that the fuel price has hit 4.05 here in northern maine the opionions of you folks would be intresting to me on what is the cheapest running semi modern tractor ( 3 point good hyd etc) in the 60 to 70 hp range range. I need another tractor and I will not buy new. I like to be able to work on my own stuff. Thanks ED

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Kentb of SWMO

03-13-2008 07:59:02

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

Look at the Nebraska test data for the highest hp-hr/gl. I think the tractor that holds the record is the old 720/730 JD two banger diesels.

Kent

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super99

03-13-2008 01:34:59

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

You didn't say what you are going to be doing with the tractor. When posible, use a higher gear and slow down the engine. Can't do that with pto work, but if plowing, disking, planting, etc, shift up and throttle back. Don't have to run wide open with a light load. If you can advance throttle and speed picks up normally, you aren't hurting a thing. I have a Oliver 1850 and pull a 13' disk and 4 row planter in 5th with the hydrapower in low about 1800rpm, watch the speedometer instead of the tach. works for me. Chris

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buickanddeere

03-12-2008 18:15:47

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

Careful that saving 2 gallons of fuel a day for two weeks doesn't cost an extra $5000.00.

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Hoss in ME

03-12-2008 17:50:21

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

Hey 4 bottom,I live in Jay.Where you located at?Ive got a JD-A from up there in the [county].Pull with it in M.A.T.C.Do pretty good too. Later Hoss

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E.B. Haymakin'

03-12-2008 17:47:16

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

March 3rd, 2008, 42 gallons of off road diesel from local distributor in Mobile, Al. was 3.23 a gallon picked up at their terminal.

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Tradititonal Farmer

03-12-2008 11:02:22

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

The tractors that get the most bag for the buck I have run are David Brown,Zetor and Yanmar

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jdemaris

03-12-2008 10:16:29

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

That's not the price of dyed farm diesel, is it? It's $2.59 right now in my part of New York. I think ULSD is over $4 at the pump though.

Fuel efficiency has a lot to do with how you're going to use the tractor most of the time. Some of the most efficient 70 horse diesel tractors run at around 17 horsepower hours per gallon when worked at 70 horsepower, but drop to 8 1/2 horsepower hours per gallon when only worked at 10 horse. So, in some uses, a smaller old gas tractor can do certain work cheaper than a larger modern diesel. That being said, some of the most fuel efficient older 60-70 horse tractors are (starting with the best from Nebraska Tests) - MF294, MF180, Case 1490, Kubota M7950, AC 6070, IH 686, David Brown 1210, David Brown 1200, Case 500,Case 870, Deere 2750, Ford 5600, Ford 5000, Ford 6610, etc.

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4 Bottom

03-12-2008 10:16:28

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

Thanks Folks Lots of good info so far. Never though about fords much, but they sound economical to run. Dont worry about gas tractors, grew up on smta that you could never miss lunch with. A morning doing heavy work you were dry. Does any one have thoughts on 720s and730s. I would like to get something a little better on fuel than my 756.

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comtcwby

03-12-2008 10:54:34

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 10:16:28

I grew up with having a JD 720 diesel. Absolutly loved the thing. Too bad Dad sold it back to his friend. Ours had all of the power we ever needed. The only problem we ever had with it was the pony motor that started it. When it was warm out, the little gas tank always managed to evaporate the gas out, and you were stuck carring a little gas can around with you to make sure that you had some. The tank is only about the size of a lawn mower tank and was mounted on the door. Other than that, it never failed us, even in the coldest conditions -20. All you had to do was pull the decompression lever and hold it a couple of minutes when it was really cold to let the cylinders warm up, then it would fire right up. The 20 series of JD set records the year that they came out. Our was extremely efficient on fuel. I hope that this helped!
Glen

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shortcourse

03-12-2008 10:08:52

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

Here in N. Indiana Gas $3.44 road diesel $4.21 MIKE

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coloken

03-12-2008 09:58:37

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

4 bottom, that is what the Neb. tests are for. Back in my day the Massey 1100 with Perkins engine was top of the list.

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rrlund

03-12-2008 09:40:46

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

Too bad the internet wasn't around back in the 70s. You'd be able to look up so many archived fuel saving suggestions,you'd have to drain fuel OUT every day. :)

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Fordfarmer

03-12-2008 09:24:55

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

I'll say right off that I'm prejudiced in favor of blue.... Depending on what age range you want, look for a Ford 5000, 5600, 6600, 5610, or 6610. Those are all 60-72 h.p. (except early 5000's that still have the original 233 c.i. engine- they are rated 57 h.p.)and easy on fuel. All are 233, 256, or 268 cubic inch 4-cylinders. Avoid the gassers, as any gas-powered tractor this size will be THIRSTY! Or even step up to a 7000/7600/7610 (256 or 268 c.i. turbo-diesels). My 7000/7600 use about 2 gal./hour mowing hay with a 9' mo-co as fast as the mower can cut it. (usually 4th or 5th low) Both use about 4 gal./hour under heavy load (15' disk in 5th low). My 4600 (52 h.p., 3-cyl) is more efficient, but lacks the power for some jobs...

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Steven f/AZ

03-12-2008 08:33:27

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

I would look at a 3 or 4-cylinder turbo diesel.

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phillip d

03-12-2008 08:29:35

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

Not to try to instagate a color war,Kubota's are fairly fuel efficient too.We used to have a 4610 ford and it was a miser,alittle small as to what you are looking for.Try and avoid a green one if you want to save fuel.I have heard that valmets are good on fuel as well.One thing about kubota,they will burn alot of fuel if worked to the max,a tank will last a pretty long time doing light work.pd.

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jayinNY

03-12-2008 08:18:49

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to 4 Bottom, 03-12-2008 07:29:58

Yeah, On road diesel just hit $4.05 here in NY too. If I were you Id look into a Ford 6610, 72 horse power and very reialible and easy to work on. Look for one from the 1990s. Jay

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jdemaris

03-12-2008 09:53:56

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to jayinNY, 03-12-2008 08:18:49

I bought 500 gallons of dyed diesel here in central New York yesterday and was surprised at how low it is (as compared to ULSD at the pump). $2.59 a gallon.

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jasoninNY

03-12-2008 11:13:25

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to jdemaris, 03-12-2008 09:53:56

JD, Did you have to pay sales tax on the offroad fuel here in New York? I thought January 1 we were gonna get wacked with sales tax.

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jdemaris

03-12-2008 12:13:06

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Re: Fuel Savings in reply to jasoninNY, 03-12-2008 11:13:25

I don't know what tax I paid. The fuel is a new color (so I'm told). Before January heating oil and farm fuel were the same in NY - but now the farm/off road fuel is slightly different - maybe just the tax and dye used? The place I got it from said they're going to stop selling it soon since there's not enough demand and it's getting too complicated. Sometime in the near future all the fuel is going to be low-sulfur - even the heating oil. Whatever it was - it was cheap compared to some other reports I've heard. I was helping out an out-of-state property owner with frozen pipes yesterday. He told me he had just bought heating oil at his home in New Jersy and he paid over $3 a gallon for heating oil. And, he lives right next to the port where the oil is stored - so I can't figure how these prices vary so much.

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