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Welding repair on holes: no stick rods?

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1 Dollar

04-01-2008 05:44:47




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I have read in Farm Show about pieces of metal that are used to aid in welding repairs on wallowed out holes. Marketed to help with drawbar holes, bushings, etc. The metal that is used in hte tool is supposed to not melt, and then you just tap it out of the hole when you are done, leaving a perfect circle that all you have to do is grind however you need it.

Anybody know the name of these things? I can't find the old magazine.

Thanks

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Mathias NY

04-02-2008 03:46:58




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 Re: Welding repair on holes: no stick rods? in reply to 1 Dollar, 04-01-2008 05:44:47  
I knew I had seen it recently. The article is also in their recent publication, The Best of Farm Show.



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1 Dollar

04-02-2008 04:58:12




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 Re: Welding repair on holes: no stick rods? in reply to Mathias NY, 04-02-2008 03:46:58  
That's exactly it. I wish i were more organized...

Then I could FIND that magazine.

Thanks



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TomTex

04-01-2008 09:14:31




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 Re: Welding repair on holes: no stick rods? in reply to 1 Dollar, 04-01-2008 05:44:47  
I have "re-newed" several pull holes on old plows, etc. I use a piece of pipe with the inside diameter hole that I want. Cut it about half inch longer than the thickness of the drawbar. Weld in around it until everthing is filled good. Then grind off excess pipe sticking out, and smooth up all the weld area. You cant even tell its been patched. Tom



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rrlund

04-01-2008 10:14:41




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 Re: Welding repair on holes: no stick rods? in reply to TomTex, 04-01-2008 09:14:31  
That's awful soft and wears oblong back to the weld pretty quick though doesn't it? I think what he's looking for is some kind of dowl that the weld won't stick to that you can drive out and pull the pin right against the weld.



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TomTex

04-01-2008 10:24:18




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 Re: Welding repair on holes: no stick rods? in reply to rrlund, 04-01-2008 10:14:41  
The pipe gives you a perfect circular hole of the exact size you want. You grind off the excess pipe ends and weld filler. to get a nice smooth surface, top and bottom. The pipe may be a little soft, but I have put 4 or 5 years on some of the plows that I used this technique on and they appear to be holding up fine. My technique may not be liked by some, but just giving my own experiences. Tom



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mj

04-01-2008 07:50:42




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 Re: Welding repair on holes: no stick rods? in reply to Alex-41JDb, 04-01-2008 05:44:47  

1 Dollar said: (quoted from post at 06:44:47 04/01/08) I have read in Farm Show about pieces of metal that are used to aid in welding repairs on wallowed out holes. Marketed to help with drawbar holes, bushings, etc. The metal that is used in hte tool is supposed to not melt, and then you just tap it out of the hole when you are done, leaving a perfect circle that all you have to do is grind however you need it.
Anybody know the name of these things? I can't find the old magazine.

Thanks


Like IaGary said ..... Forney had carbon rods on their in-store displays.

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IaGary

04-01-2008 05:59:54




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 Re: Welding repair on holes: no stick rods? in reply to 1 Dollar, 04-01-2008 05:44:47  
I just use carbon rods.

Been around for years and nothing new to them.

But they do work good.

Gary



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sd pete

04-01-2008 07:08:06




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 Re: Welding repair on holes: no stick rods? in reply to IaGary, 04-01-2008 05:59:54  
Thats what i always use.



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the tractor vet

04-01-2008 06:22:51




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 Re: Welding repair on holes: no stick rods? in reply to IaGary, 04-01-2008 05:59:54  
Brass copper carbon they all work . Also a good steady handed welder can do the same . The man that was tryen to teach me the finer points of welding could do things with a rod that i have NEVER seen anybody else do . I am a good welder but i could not carry a candle to old John Toth . Now that is one man that when you were around him ya just sat back and listen .



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Dick L

04-01-2008 07:27:46




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 Re: Welding repair on holes: no stick rods? in reply to the tractor vet, 04-01-2008 06:22:51  
Sounds like one of my welding instructors that welded two chain links to show/teach control with a TIG.
Showed us how he stick welded hood up by sound. Hood down and strike an arc, flip the hood up and say listen to the sound and tell what we should be hearing, flip the hood down to end the stick. Looked like a row of dimes.
He also beat the flux off a rod and made us practice with bare rod. That was not for showing a quality weld but for teaching hand control.

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