The nerve of some people

What you say makes sense to any reasonable person & I agree with you.

Not every legal person is a reasonable person.... ;) One needs to be prepared for the reality - crazy as it is - that we live in.

I own a 5 acre woodlot that has 'over the fields winter access' for making firewood. It and maybe a dozen other little tracts are in there, landlocked. Someday, that poor farmer is going to be forced to allow a road by someone.... Won't be me making that move on him.

--->Paul

Take a day or 2 to collect your thoughts - you don't want to make this a retailation for something else.

Renting out land is a business, and folks do business. Your 'offfer' to rent the land for 5 years for the same price would be laughed at - land rent has nearly doubled in the past 12 months.

Easements are a funny thing, and govt types tend to judge for whatever causes them the least problems, not always what is just & fair. Look at the thread below on Judges.... There may be an exsisting unwritten easement; and the right buddies might decide putting in another road will cost the township/county too much money so as long as your field road is there, go ahead & use that. I'm not saying that would be 'right', but it can and has happened.

Raising holy caine with the neighbor can come back on a person over the next 30 years.... Be careful on burning bridges. Do your business your way, but try to be calm, and matter of fact, and don't look like you are blackmailing or trying to get even. If you will & can block access, do so, but do not tie it into renting the land or not. That only raises the territiorial feelings of human beings. You would basically be issuing a threat to the neighbor - rent to me or else!

Think this through a few days, and be very business like & matter of fact, and do what you will do. Straight out.

Your next 30 years hinge on how this all works out.

Again, I understand how you feel, and if it were me I'd feel exactly as you do. But, you want to end up with good results, not just be able to vent for a couple days & then have years of issues.

On all the farm boards, there is talk of spoken rental deals being forgotten about this year. It sucks, but that is how it goes. Rent is up - way up - and you might not have done much with a small offer of matching the old rent....

Allow or don't allow access to the other property across yours, but just leave that all by itself. Don't even bring up the land or rent. The neighbor can draw his own conclusions, and that appears to be done & gone now. Keep the upper path. Don't make anthing look like it is spite.

Someday it will come up for rent again, and you may or may not be in the running for it depending on how you handle this.

If I owned the land, and you said people can't drive to it because I want to rent it for last year's rental price, _I_ would look at that as blackmail.

Be careful how you word all that.

--->Paul

Again, I totally agree with you on the situation, I would not want to be an access point to other land at all. It sets up a situation that can turn into a tarred road to a development 15 years from now - once you let it happen you can get on the hook for an easement you don't want.

Last year it was the same renter accessing all the land he rented - no problem. This year is different, & this is your time to set things the way you want it on your property.

I'm with you!

--->Paul

Realistically, Say yeah you'd grant access across your ground....for a price.
Or, maybe offer a little more money to rent....

Regardless, communication is the key.

You need to rethink this.....sounds like blackmail to me..... Don

But rent has gone up sooooo.

You might want to be a good renter and offer a little, I say little, more rent than what has been paid in the past.

Gary

I know how it torqs a guy off when you have plans that get blind sided, but did the landowner know of your interest in the land, or was this just talked about between you and the renter?

Dave, have a beer or two and calm down, then gather your thoughts for the conversation that you need to have with your neighbor. It strikes me that your neighbor might be feeling you out and that he hasn`t yet finalized an agreement with the new renter.

Yeah, he started it, but you are throwing down the gauntlet if you rashly say "no access" across your land without knowing all of the details. Perhaps you should receive financial compensation for seasonally granted access across your property? What`s better than passive income?