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Bruce Hopf

05-18-2008 16:42:45




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I have pretty much taken apart my buss saw, making darn sure that everything checks out OK, just to bee safe. I have taken the blade, and using a wire brush on my angle grinder, I cleaned off all the surface rust on the blade. I removed the PTO driven gear box, and drive pulley assembly, and I'm going to drain, and flush out the old gear oil. Then put new gear oil into it, and reinstall the assembly. I next going to remove the sliding table, and replace the boards on the deck. Clean up and grease the axles, and rollers for the deck, so it will slide nice and easy. I still need to grease up the bearings for the drive shaft for the blade, and the other drive pulley. I have made a new drive belt for the buss saw. For measurements while cutting, I an going to make removable table extenders for cutting into lengths. One for 12" lengths, and one for 16" lengths. For the log side of the blade, I am planning to put groves into the table, one for 12", and one for 16" lengths with the router, for the last cuts. While cutting, I plan to have my bale/grain elevator set up, so that the blocks of wood fall from the saw table, into it, to remove the blocks of wood, and put into a pile. I will use the tractor and loader to carry the 4' logs to the saw, and slide them onto the saw from the bucket. Now that my buss saw is PTO driven, what rpm is recommended to run the tractor at wit a 540 rpm PTO? Your input is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Bruce.

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George G

05-19-2008 06:29:19




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 Re: In regards to Buss Saw in reply to Bruce Hopf, 05-18-2008 16:42:45  
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Anything bigger than 10", I use a chain saw. I think I can cut the small stuff alot faster with the buzzsaw. Plus, I only need to sharpen the bazzsaw once a year.

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36 coupe

05-19-2008 04:52:35




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 Re: In regards to Buss Saw in reply to Bruce Hopf, 05-18-2008 16:42:45  
Have the blade machine sharpened if you can find some who still does big blades.I have seen some pretty sick blades that have been buggered up by people who think they know how to sharpen saws.The machine grinder will get all teeth the same height and angles.Set has to be good on cordwood blades.There is no reason to have your hands near the saw blade.Speed of a 30 inch saw is 1000 RPM.I keep mine sharp and run slower.I take the blade off and machine sharpen once a year.I hand sharpen in between and keep the teeth even.A sharp saw uses less horsepower.Using a chain saw to cut wood to stove length is hard on the saw.It increases chain and bar wear 4X.Bar oil has doubled in price here.

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Joe Robertson

05-19-2008 02:34:22




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 Re: In regards to Buss Saw in reply to Bruce Hopf, 05-18-2008 16:42:45  
Bruce I'm interested in how you have your saw set up as I am attempting to do same(with caution.) Have table complete and test sawed but the small engine just don't do it. Have mf 265 that I would like to use. The gear box, required connections are where I am lost.Any light shed on this would be appreciated. Thank You. Joe



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M Moline Fan

05-19-2008 06:26:52




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 Re: In regards to Buss Saw in reply to Joe Robertson, 05-19-2008 02:34:22  
I'm not Bruce but I can shed some light. To use your 265 (which is a lot of tractor for the job) you'll need a belt pulley attachment for the pto. On my dad's old Fergy 30 he has a belt pulley with a 90 degree gearbox. The assembly bolts on the 4 bolts that otherwise hold the regular pto extension with a shield (which you remove to put on the gearbox) and the gearbox slides over the stub pto. May be hard to find this attachment for your 265.

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kano

05-20-2008 01:18:43




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 Re: In regards to Buss Saw in reply to M Moline Fan, 05-19-2008 06:26:52  
Thank you for your time and info on buss saw.
Joe



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fergienewbee

05-19-2008 01:31:12




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 Re: In regards to Buss Saw in reply to Bruce Hopf, 05-18-2008 16:42:45  
Seems everyone has a preferred method for cutting and stacking wood. I've been thinning our wood lot, taking mostly the small and inferior trees. I just use a chainsaw and cut up one tree at a time. Then I split it on site and load it in a box on my carry all. I can't haul as much as with a pick-up, but I sure get around better with the tractor. It more manuverable and I don't get stuck.

I've seen a few guys missing part of an arm to sway be from a buzz rig.

Larry in Michigan

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Goose

05-18-2008 18:47:07




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 Re: In regards to Buss Saw in reply to Bruce Hopf, 05-18-2008 16:42:45  
My one uncle's left hand and mine were identical; both missing the left index finger to the second joint.

I lost mine in an accident when I was 16 months old. My uncle lost his in a buzz saw.

Be sure to wear ear plugs. Those suckers howl!



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teddy52food

05-18-2008 18:45:20




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 Re: In regards to Buss Saw in reply to Bruce Hopf, 05-18-2008 16:42:45  
Make sure the length guide is flexible ( like a chain hanging down) so you don't pinch the saw. I never use a guide. It takes too much time to try to get each piece perfect. You can get close enough by eye. You ane not cutting pieces to build a piano.



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Bob

05-18-2008 17:45:13




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 Re: In regards to Buss Saw in reply to Bruce Hopf, 05-18-2008 16:42:45  
My late Uncle had a buzzsaw mounted on the front of a DEERE "D".

He was very "respectful" of it, and instilled in me to be very careful around it.

He had a little poem...


There once was a man from Chicago

who wanted to see a buzzsaw go.

So he put his face up close to the place.

Now folks ask "where did his jaw go"?



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M Moline Fan

05-18-2008 17:39:55




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 Re: In regards to Buss Saw in reply to Bruce Hopf, 05-18-2008 16:42:45  
Two things to add, make sure there's a guard around the blade except where it's cutting and before you use it make sure the blade "rings" when you tap it with metal to be sure it doesn't have a crack.

I know this is your tool of choice and I've used a buzz saw (my dad has a 3 point hitch one for his Ferguson- parked for years) but I prefer to use a rack to stack a bunch of log sections and cut through the rack full with a good size chainsaw. It makes a bunch of pieces in a hurry. I have a rack that goes on a low trailer so the pieces drop in the trailer. When the pieces get high enough on the trailer to be in the way I pull the trailer to the pile and stack.

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Jim in Ma.

05-18-2008 17:19:39




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 Re: In regards to Buss Saw in reply to Bruce Hopf, 05-18-2008 16:42:45  
O mine I run at a fast idle on 540rpm , Try it and you can tell. Just think about it, Like using a skill saw it needs to be sharp and have some set to the teeth. If you have to push hard to make it cut something is wrong. The saw should just about cut by it's self. From your description you should have a good setup. Oh-ya make sure the teeth cut downward towards the table.



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