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digital TV delayed until June 12th

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buickanddeere

01-25-2009 13:22:04




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One of Oboma's first steps to save the US is to delay the current analoge and digital mix to all digital TV. The delay is because six million of the 330 million persons in the US. Have yet to get around to obtaining convertors. Here's a little tip. Some people are never and will never be prepared. They have to be up to their rears in alligators before they will try to drain the swamp. Come next June 11th. There will still be 5.99 million persons not prepared for 100% digital.

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dave2

01-25-2009 20:03:49




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to 730virgil, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  

davpal said: (quoted from post at 20:50:57 01/25/09) Here's a little tip for you. Since you don't live in the United States don't worry about what we're doing over here.


Guess that's directed at me. Did you just wake up from your nap and missed your scooby snack? As long as I pay my share of your stimulous check, I'll worry and ask about anything I want. Sorry if my question upset you.

Dave
This post was edited by dave2 at 20:04:52 01/25/09.

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buickanddeere

01-25-2009 20:46:09




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to dave2, 01-25-2009 20:03:49  
Don't worry about davpal, his poor little tooshy is still sore from last week. It's likely his response was posted while under the "modern view" and the replay wasn't attached to person he's actually upset with. Poor lad suffers from xenophobia.



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blinwmi

01-25-2009 20:42:33




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to dave2, 01-25-2009 20:03:49  
I think the comment was directed at B&D, one of our visiting canuuks.



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davpal

01-25-2009 19:50:57




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to buickanddeere, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  
Here's a little tip for you. Since you don't live in the United States don't worry about what we're doing over here.



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Ryan - WI

01-25-2009 18:02:14




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to buickanddeere, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  
I don't want to seem holier than though but wanted to correct a few statements made in this thread.

1. The cause for the possible delay is more than just 6 million people are not ready. It has to do with the $40 voucher program. All of the coupons have been given out and there is no more money to fund the program. It was underestimated how many people would need one. Some of the coupons are expiring rather than being used but the government needs to wait to see how much cash isn't used before it can send out more coupons.

2. There is nothing that you need to do on a roof. All the people that tell you that your existing antenna is not able to be used are full of crap. All 90+ percent of people need to do is buy a convertor box and put it between the wall and the tv or vcr. That is it. No action on the roof. I have 2 of them in my house now.

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dave2

01-25-2009 16:25:49




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 Re: ARE YOU SURE ?? in reply to MH, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  
That's all it takes here. Digital vs analog is the difference between a 20 and 40 buck receiver (and the type of TV). Not too many english channels though.

Dave



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C-man

01-25-2009 16:18:58




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to buickanddeere, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  
The local NBC station in Rapid City SD switched to digital last Monday. We have DISH Network and I can't see any difference. Getting on the roof in June, if it is a hot day, can scuff the shingles, so maybe they better wait until October. I agree, no matter when the switch is, SOMEONE won't be ready! Just like the FSA offices, they almost always extend the deadline for their programs even if you have had 2 years and 10 months to sign up.

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Jon Hagen

01-25-2009 15:49:46




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to buickanddeere, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  
B&D, your "up to their rears in aligators" story is dead on LOL. About the only good reason I can see for the delay is up "here" in North Dakota where it has gotten near 20 below every night these last two weeks, is so those who have ignored the alligators can do an antenna upgrade in June instead of February.
Going to be hard on one local station though, (KMOT ch 10). They spent two hours last week, trying to save cost by going cold turkey to digital. Said they had the new digital equipment in the same building and shut down the analog transmitter, moved the cables to the new digital stuff and cranked it back up.

What do they do now ? They do not have equipment in place to run both the analog and digital transmitter at the same time. Personally I hope they just stay digital and let the fools scramble to get their TV's set up. They have had at least a year to get it done.

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RayP(MI)

01-25-2009 17:49:10




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to Jon Hagen, 01-25-2009 15:49:46  
Well, it's going to take a serious antenna upgrade here. We're in a fringe area, and the stations sending out acceptable analog signals aren't making the grade with their digital. Besides, there are several that are lost - all CBS, my wife's favorite. In short, we're skrewed.



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banjo

01-25-2009 21:03:53




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to RayP(MI), 01-25-2009 17:49:10  
yep all i can get with the converter is pbs channels. all the other stations are 80-150 miles away and i aint getting them.



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buickddeere

01-25-2009 18:03:22




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to RayP(MI), 01-25-2009 17:49:10  
It will improve when everything goes all digital at full power. Right now digital and some analog are broadcasting at reduced power. Also with a doubled amount of all those relatively high powered signals jammed so close together. TV tuners are getting overloaded which reduces picture quality.



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dave2

01-25-2009 15:24:50




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 Re: ARE YOU SURE ?? in reply to Fixerupper, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  
Is TV so complicated???? I can go to the local home depot equivilent and get a satelite dish and receiver for 80 bucks, take it home and point it in the right direction and get 400+ channels at no cost.

Dave



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Larry D.

01-25-2009 16:33:03




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 Re: ARE YOU SURE ?? in reply to dave2, 01-25-2009 15:24:50  
I Too am Quite Curious as to what thats all about, Tell Us More..Larry KF4LKU



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GUIDO

01-25-2009 16:10:19




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 Re: ARE YOU SURE ?? in reply to dave2, 01-25-2009 15:24:50  
Hello dave2, ARE YOU SURE? Tell me more.
Guido.



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DH in Carolina

01-25-2009 16:57:49




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 Re: ARE YOU SURE ?? in reply to GUIDO, 01-25-2009 16:10:19  
Links were wrong: www.ftalife.com or www.ftaforall.info



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DH in Carolina

01-25-2009 16:25:11




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 Re: ARE YOU SURE ?? in reply to GUIDO, 01-25-2009 16:10:19  
Do a search for "free to air tv". Go to WWW.ftaforlife.com or www.ftaforall.com. DH



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PAGlenn

01-25-2009 14:30:31




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to buickanddeere, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  
Isn"t Feb the so called "Sweeps month" when the
TV networks set their rates for advertising
dollars



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Buzzman72

01-25-2009 14:26:57




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 ARE YOU SURE ?? in reply to buickanddeere, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  
There's nothing on any Associated Press news sites about this delay...not on National, Tec, Science, or Entertainment news.

And as of 2 minutes ago the official government site, www.dtv.gov , was still counting down to February 17...23 days, 6 hours, etc...

So what's your source for the news of the delay?



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jay-eye-see

01-25-2009 14:37:34




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 Re: ARE YOU SURE ?? in reply to Buzzman72, 01-25-2009 14:26:57  
not a done deal yet it



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Buzzman72

01-25-2009 14:39:46




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 Re: ARE YOU SURE ?? in reply to jay-eye-see, 01-25-2009 14:37:34  
I didn't think it was.

Thank you for the link.



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paul

01-25-2009 14:01:37




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to buickanddeere, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  
I do agree with you. However....

Feb is a dern foolish time to be doing the switchover.

One likely has to go up on the roof & mess with the antennea. Or cable. Or new bigger antennea. Or add a pivot, or booster.

Or forget all that & get Dish/ Direct TV.

NONE of which is a good idea to be doing in winter when no leaves are on the trees and lots of snow & ice is on the roof.

A real dunderhead picked February for the switch. One of the early summer months is a _much_ better thing, and on that basis alone I like pushing it back some.

But I sure agree with you, for those who don't know about it they won't be ready whenever it happens.

I wish the experts could answer some expert questions.

Local repeater UHF stations still can run analog for several years, they don't address that much.

Currently many TV stations are running 1/2 power, and running on UHF channels - they will switch back to VHF and no one tells us what power level in Feb (or whenever....). So how can we set up our antennea, boosters, etc when we don't really know what type of signal we will recieve, how strong it will be, etc?

They talk about one converter box needed per TV if on antennea, but they ignore VHS taping.... You'll need a box of it also, or you won't be able to tape one channel while watching another - Oops did we forget to tell you all that????

And other stuff. All I hear from the experts is, if you have rabbit ears you might need a better antennea. Well, what if we already are starting with one on top of the roof, where do we go from there? How about addressing the more complicated details of all this?

And don't do it in the middle of winter fer crying out loud!

--->Paul

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IaGary

01-25-2009 13:25:01




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to buickanddeere, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  
Yep so what if they are without a TV for a couple of days until they get a convertor bought.

If they have no TV they will get it done. Until then there is no reason for them to pay $40 for sometihing they don't need.

Gary



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Davis SC

01-25-2009 17:19:42




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to IaGary, 01-25-2009 13:25:01  
Yes, No big deal if I miss a week or 2 of TV... I think most real TV fans already have cable or dish service anyhow..



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dave2

01-25-2009 13:24:30




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 Re: digital TV delayed until June 12th in reply to Ed n Northern Va, 01-25-2009 13:22:04  
That's the ones that haven't got the stimulous check yet. Be patient will ya????? ???

Dave



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