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Posted by caseman-d on April 11, 2002 at 16:21:59 from (65.166.191.56):

In Reply to: filters posted by wade on April 11, 2002 at 11:48:08:

Why is it a person will got to Walmart, Kmart, or some other cheap place to buy filters for there 30,000.00 pickup and not care what it's like as long as it's the cheapest thing they can find.

I have sold Fram, Baldwin, Purolator, and Donaldson filters. Even sold a few Wix and Fleetguard filters. I sold these to big construction companys working in extreme dusty working conditions. Out of 12 years selling these filters I have never had any of these cause the loss of an engine, trany, or any componet of piece of equipment.

I had the pleasure of spending about a week in the Baldwin filter factor in NE. I got to listen to the engineers tell me why their filters were the best. They showed me why they thought theirs were made best. Then they took me back to watch them make the filters.Very interesting.

After watching them make Baldwins for awhile they switched to making some Frams, Purolator, and a few more brands. Just like any filter they all meet certain specs of the Original Manufactures Equipment specifiacations.

I have had fleetguard tell me and show me why their filter's were better than all the rest. Been a few years since I been around Fleetguard but they used to be OEM for Cummings and IH. Think they probably both are.

Donaldson my favorite. Thet are OEM for Caterpillar. There is a 99.9 percent chance that filter you buy from the Cat dealer is made by Donaldson. Cat does make very very few of there own filters. What I understand if Cat makes a change Donaldson makes it but cannot sell it till after another filter company comes out with an aftermarket one. I don't have the proof but I know Donaldson also buys filters from other filter companies just like they all do.

Wix makes filters for Napa, Big A(if anyone has any left) Carquest and hard telling who else. Seen Wix in Baldwin and Donaldson boxes. All these companys have been around for a long time.

Filters are made by humans. They are as perfect as we make them. It's amazing how an engineer can work for Balwin for years then go to work for Fram and if that not good enough maybe try Donaldson for a few years. If you was to figure out how many filters are made and sold the number that fail is very small. Some times when a manufacture Such as Dodge for example they changed the air filter on the cummins diesel 3 years in a row. So it's not feesable for every filter company to make one for each year.

So which ones the best! Which one are you comfortable useing? If you are buying that 1.99 filter for your 30,000.00 car or truck they should be good enough for a 500.00-3000.00 tractor. If you change your oil every 2000 to 3000 miles most anything will work. If you change it once every 10,000 you might want to try something besides the 1.99 Walmart special(which reminds me that I heard Walmart doesn't fly the American Flag at their stores unless the employees pay for everything).

I believe 99 percent of all filter failures are caused by human error . Said more that what I had planned on. God gave us a brain to use so why not use it.
caseman-d



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