Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: original IH mufflers

Posted by Hugh MacKay on April 21, 2003 at 20:36:04 from (64.228.11.114):

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Re: original IH mufflers posted by Tim Malin on April 21, 2003 at 14:24:50:

Tim: No I didn't forget you had a Super M. You see, here is how I look at it IH started two great lines of tractors in 1939 that both lasted for 40 years with improvments. One was the A, SA, SA1, 100, 130 and 140. (1939-1979) second was M, SM, SMTA, 400, 450, 560, 656, 666 and 686. (1939-1979) In both cases, some parts will interchange with all models in that line. In the case of the larger tractor, the same rear wheel will fit all. The SM wide front will fit all. They all had basically the same 5 speed transmission. The 656, 666 and 686 to me are nothing more than Farmall M or SM with a whole lot of improvments. I don't need to spell out the list, you know it, I know it and so do most people on this forum. The rest don't matter. The single biggest improvment was comfort for those long days. It is pathetic today going to farm events, seeing those guys 1/2 to a whole generation older than I, all crippled up with arthritus, back and leg problems, faces weathered to the point they look like cowhide. All of that the result of spending long long days on old F and W 12, 14, 20 30 and 40 graduating to A, B, C, H and M then to 300, etc. to 450, etc. 560, etc. Many of them never enjoyed a nice warm cab plowing in WI, MI or ON in Nov. Many of them never enjoyed being able to turn sideways in seat just to change position. You could even cross your legs on those newer ones. No, Tim I am not critizing your SM, it was part of the evolution.

I will take exception to the dirty boy remark. There are many couples who have spent a lifetime on farm together and I will bet 99% of them had more than one romanyic encounter outside the farm house, and yet still on the farm. And yes it happened in the haymow, the corn crib, the alfalfa field or under a big oak tree alongside a babbling stream, and there is nothing dirty about it. You were farming together because you enjoyed each other. My wife and I have been married for 38 years coming up in June, we have 3 children all now in their mid 30s. Are any of them in FARMING, no our family drew the line on producing cheap food for the nation when it became cheap raw material for the corperate elite.

And Tim just back a few weeks ago you were looking at a venture, re some ag experience. Here is one for you, and since there seems to be less and less money feeding hay to cattle. If you consider the fact most city dwellers are now 3-4 generations away from the farm. Grandpa no longer has a farm. Grow hay and round bale it, market it to all those young city upstarts that have never had a romantic encounter in the haymow. If you market it right it could be bigger than McDonalds.

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