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Re: wet sleeves in 358 compaired to 414 motors


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Posted by Hugh MacKay on March 17, 2004 at 02:15:34 from (216.208.58.123):

In Reply to: wet sleeves in 358 compaired to 414 motors posted by Larry B. on March 16, 2004 at 16:44:59:

Larry: I think all these wet sleeve engines should have water filters, but that must also be combined with excellent maintainence. The wet sleeve problem in my opinion was never an IH American engine exclusive. It is a problem we all must manage.

I have been one of the guys critical of this IH problem. That is no crititism on 414 and 436 engines. My gripe has never been with the tractor, but rather IH the corperation selling those tractors new in the 1970's without water filters and never informing anyone of the problem. Their engineers knew in advance what was going to happen. Buyers of the then new tractors had a right to be informed. The few that had been exposed to diesels in large trucks knew of the problem and acted accordingly.

I had put 10,000 hours each on 2 - 282 diesels and 13,000 hours on a 329DT Deere engine, to their first rebuilds. At 8,000 hours if anyone had asked about my 1066, I would have said it will go to 15,000 hours before needing a rebuild. The engine was clean, no oil leaks, hp was in the 150 range on dyno. At just under 10,000 hours the sleeves failed. I still believe that tractor could have and should have gone the 15,000 hours to it's first rebuild.


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