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Re: tractor shopping: 454 vs 464


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Posted by JB2 on August 30, 2004 at 17:09:26 from (24.157.143.220):

In Reply to: tractor shopping: 454 vs 464 posted by genep on August 30, 2004 at 15:29:34:

Hi, both basically the same tractor but 464 has 4 cylinder D206 vs 3 cylinder D179 engine therefore the 464 has slightly more HP. The D206 is also in 584 and has same pistons, sleeves and rods as the 6 cylinder D310. The D179 has same cylinders etc as 4 cylinder D239 in 574 and 684.
In my part of the country the 464s were rare as most farmers chose the 574 with the D239 which could be cranked up close to 65 HP with adjusting the injector pump.

From archives:

Hi, my dad, then my brother have owned the same 454D for over 30 years. The hour meter quit several years ago at about 5000 hrs. but probably in excess of 10,000 hrs on it. Great utility tractor. German Diesel runs for ever with minimal maintance. Had diesel go into the crankcase oil twice caused by an $8 oil seal on the Bosch injector pump.
As someone else mentioned the parking brake if accidently left on and the tractor driven the transmission/hydraulic system will be clogged with brake lining. Also the hydraulic brakes can be a problem when they are old and the seals start to leak and air gets in the brake lines.
Also check to see if power steering unit is leaking oil from under the dash down by the clutch and brake pedals. My brother's has leaked a little for 10 years now but not enough to fix yet.
Another caution is be careful connecting to other hydraulic cylinders make sure that they have the proper IH Hytran hydraulic oil in them.

Therefore choose the one that you feel most comfortable with.

My 2 cents
JB2



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