Hy-Tran Revisited (long)

Posted by Jim Allen on August 19, 2005 at 03:51:06 from (209.173.160.22):

After all the great posts in answer to my
question about Hy-Tran, I’ve done some
looking around, been to two dealers and
come to some conclusions. You guys need to
read this post carefully before commenting. My
goal here was to find out if there was anything
special about Hy-Tran that warranted the
higher price.

1) When you go to a dealer to buy bulk
hydraulic/transmission fluid, don’t necessarily
expect it to be "official" Case/IH Hy-Tran. Of the
two dealers nearest me, one used a Citgo
product (either Transgard or maybe Mystik
JT-5) and the other Shell Donax. They did offer
Case/IH Hy-Tran in 5-gallon buckets at the
parts counter, but in the shop, it was the bulk
stuff. The bulk was about $5.80/gal, the
Hy-Tran $8.00/gal in the bucket. One dealer
parts guy freely admitted the bulk fluid was not
Hy-Tran, and while the other parts guy was a
little cagey, one of the wrenches out back had
no problem telling me. Both outfits claimed
the other fluids were perfectly compatible with
the old International Hy-Tran B-6
specifications, while meeting the newer
Case/IH standards (Hy-Tran Plus).

2) There is a universal industry specification
for Hydraulic/Trans fluid that is compatible
with the old B-6 specification, which appears
to be nothing special in this day and age.
Maybe it once was. All the oil out there for
which I could get Product Specification Sheets
claimed to be compatible with, or to meet or
exceeded this standard. The industry standard
tests include oxidation resistance, rust
protection, water sensitivity, clutch and brake
chatter performance tests, etc. Even the lower
priced fluid, such as the Wal Mart Super Tech
and TSC Traveller we discussed in the
previous posts meet these specs.

3) I did find some "No-Name" fluid out there in
a local Farm/Ranch store that just says
"Hydraulic/Transmission Fluid" and not much
else on the label. It did not claim to meet any
manufacturer’s spec. I’d be leery of this stuff
and you could find stuff like that elsewhere.

4) I collected, and am still collecting, Product
Information Sheets on Hydraulic/Trans Fluid. I
can’t go into all of it in detail because of space
limits here, but these specs were very much
the same on all the fluids. Some had a little
more of this or that, but nothing that really
jumped out as super. Well, except the Amsoil
product. It appears to be great stuff, but it ain’t
cheap at $18.70/gallon. This stuff WAY
exceeds all specs and performance tests.

5) FYI, I got Data sheets on the following oils I
in no particular order), Case/IH Hy-Tran, John
Deere Hy-Gard, Universal Torque Fluid
(Texas Refinery), Superfilm Universal Tractor
Fluid (Amrep), Hydraul (Esso), Synthetic
Tractor Hydrulic/Trans oil (Amsoil), Champion
#4000, Ultratorque ( Horizon Lubricants), HG
Fluid (Phillips 66) Valvoline Premium
Universal Tractor Fluid, Castrol UTF,
Transgard (Citgo), Donax (Shell), 75 Fluid,
Mystic JT-5, Mobilfluid 424 (Mobil).

6) I THINK, I have a Data Sheet for the TSC
Traveller (manufactured under contract to
TSC, I will confirm), but I haven’t been able to
get one for the Wal-Mart Super Tech, though I
can get sheets for their motor oils and 90wt
gear oils (which show and test well).

7) I found some independent oil tests on two
hydraulic oil products, one of which was the
John Deere Hy-Gard and it tested very well.

8) CONCLUSION. Though the jury is not fully
in on some of the oils, it appears there is
nothing super special about Hy-Tran that
cannot be met by a brand name, universal
hydraulic/trans oil that lists itself as a
functional equivalent for, or "meets and
exceeds" the Hy-Tran Spec. The Mystik JT-5
even claims to be patterned after Hy-Tran on
its Data sheet. Because the Wal Mart and TSC
oil is so attractively priced, I will focus more
research on these oils to determine if they fit
in with the brand name oils and meet a
reasonable quality standard.

Follow Ups:

• Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) Cliff Neubauer 16:27:27 08/19/05 (1)
  • Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) Jay (ND) 20:52:32 08/19/05 (0)
• Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) Jim Allen 15:42:51 08/19/05 (2)
  • Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) Jay (ND) 16:36:16 08/19/05 (1)
    • Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) T_Bone 18:33:02 08/19/05 (0)
• Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) PAULIH300 10:29:45 08/19/05 (0)
• Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) genep 08:31:16 08/19/05 (0)
• Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) Bronson 07:23:42 08/19/05 (7)
  • Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) Super A 08:22:29 08/19/05 (6)
    • Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) Jim Allen 09:34:05 08/19/05 (5)
      • Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) IanC 10:31:22 08/19/05 (4)
        • Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) T_Bone 12:19:33 08/19/05 (2)
          • Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) PAULIH300 14:15:54 08/19/05 (1)
            • Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) T_Bone 18:18:51 08/19/05 (0)
        • Re: Hy-Tran Revisited (long) Jay (ND) 11:47:42 08/19/05 (0)

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