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Posted by Jim Allen on September 27, 2005 at 14:23:59 from (209.173.160.22):
A while back I asked about using Case/IH
Hy-Tran vs some of the budget generic fluids,
especially Wal Mart Supertech and Tractor
Supply Traveller, or some of the products from
the well known oil companies. I got product
data sheets for as many oils as I could, spoke
with one lubrication engineer, several
lubrication specialists/experts and some
sales guys and several tractor techs. Here are
the results of that research.
Basically, the older IH units don’t have any
super-special requirements that are met
ONLY by genuine Hy-Tran. Many good oils
meet or exceed the standards set by IHC.
While you can buy the genuine stuff in buckets
at the Case/IH dealer, the bulk stuff in back
MAY NOT be Hy-Tran. It may be better. In the
case of my closest dealer, it was actually
Mystik JT-5 (a branch of Citgo) and its specs
actually exceeded those of genuine Hy-Tran.
Those of you that spoke up against using the
cheaper generic fluids are basically right.
There is a generic "Farm & Fleet" standard for
these types of oils which makes them
basically "safe" for the applications listed on
the label, but not necessarily desirable over
the long term. It’s the old cost versus benefit
thing... they aren’t going to spend more to sell
for less. They may use fewer additives, or
cheaper ones, and perhaps a lower quality
base oil to keep the costs down. I’m going to
do an oil analysis on the Tractor Supply fluid I
used (which will basically be a flush oil) at 150
hours and that will tell the tale on the Traveller
product.
The big problem I found with regards to the
cheaper fluids sold at the box and farm stores
is that I couldn’t get much info on them. No
surprise. The Wal Mart fluid, for example, may
be made by one company for three years but
then is contracted to another for the next three.
The specs will change slightly, even though it
wears the same label in the store, but they’d
rather not have you know the particulars. One
of those company’s product may be pretty
good for the money but the new contractor
may not be quite as good and that leads to
questions they don’t want to answer. It all
meets a minimum standard, however.
As to the oil company products, they are most
often superior to Hy-Tran. Some of the names
that came up as excellent hydraulic
transmission fluids (and are more or less list
in the order of preference) are Chevron, Shell
Donax, Mystik JT-5 and Mobil 424. The
Chevron additive products, under Oronite
name, are in many of the better fluids and they
are very good.
John Deere’s (dare I speak of the green
tractors!)Hy-Gard fluid is reputed to be a top
notch fluid, better than Hy-Tran in fact. It ain’t
cheap, though. There are high-dollar
synthetics available as well like Amsoil. They
should be great, but not many of us is willing
to spend $20/gallon or more.
My thoughts are that you can get a top quality
oil that exceeds the Hy-Tran spec for about
$6-7 a gallon (less than the $8.00 a gallon for
Hy-Tran). Some local prices were $5.87/gal for
Mystik JT-5 (bulk), $6.52/gal for Shell Donax
(5-gallon pails) and $6.91 for Chevron (5-gal
pails).
Bottom line, Hy-Trans is great fluid but, IMHO,
the markup placed on it at the dealer puts it in
a price category above where it should be
based on the product. It’s your money, your
tractor and your decision.
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