Re: Farmer Wannabees

Posted by Hugh MacKay on November 19, 2005 at 13:26:23 from (209.226.247.179):

In Reply to: Re: Farmer Wannabees posted by Quebec Red on November 19, 2005 at 08:46:20:

Red: Don't take me wrong, I really have no problem with the Crown Vic. I could live with one of those buggies, just about as easy as I tolerate the Buick. For that matter just about any of our well built full size North American automobiles. One that is catching my eye just lately is that Chrysler 300, man that's some buggy.

Problem I have with the auto industry is pricing, leasing versus owning. If you check out the lease price, then you know very well investors in the auto industry are still wanting double digit return on their investment. Then look at the total lease payments for the proposed term, plus the residual value at end of term. Having said that a cash sale price for the particular auto should be about 50% of list price. You try for anywhere near that at any auto dealer and they will show you the door. 30 years ago cash talked, not anymore.

Now the way I look at these full size diesel pickups. 75% of the folks that have them, do 90% of driving them with less than a half ton on board. I used to pull trailers on the farm with my 3/4 ton pickups, busted a lot of truck, got many a thrill from overloads and lack of brakes. Then I bought a used single axle highway tractor with air brakes to haul those pickup overloads. My total cost of operation on trucks actually went down. Today the heaviest thing I haul is my SA or 130. I would like to buy a 3/4 ton diesel pickup with an inline 6 geared to turn about 1650 rpm at 100 KPH or 60 MPH. No reason why such a vehicle shouldn't hit 40 miles per IMP gallon. A friend of mine did it 20 years ago with new 1 ton Chevy dually, specifically ordered rear end, 5 speed standard and a Deere 404 cubic inch diesel from a 4000 Deere tractor. The problem he said was without mass production the investment he had in engine, transmission and rear end, Chevy would have to build that cab and chassis for 30 years as he would need 3 of them to get his money back. That was in 1985, and you know how long GM continued that cab and chassis.

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