Re: changing a D282 with a D310 in a 706

Posted by Hugh MacKay on January 22, 2006 at 14:25:43 from (209.226.247.179):

In Reply to: Re: changing a D282 with a D310 in a 706 posted by P Backus on January 22, 2006 at 13:00:25:

Paul: The American 312 and 360 are the same block, whether they are same dimensions as the 282 I'm not sure. The 312 was used in the 666 and the 360 in the 766 and early 886.

There has to be countless millions of those 360 engines out there in the DT360 version. It saw wide use in single axle trucks, even GM used a few of them. I know they do use a different injection pump than the tractors. I know IH was using it in trucks before 1980, and I still see it in trucks as new as 2003. That was the main reason IH switched the farm tractors to the German engines, demand for that block in trucks outstriped the US plants capability to produce. Probably the highest production engine IH and later Navistar ever turned out. Just about every truck application the engine out lived the truck by a long shot. There has to be a supply of 360 engines out there.

Kind of the same type of story as a friend of mine. A Deere dealer and he put a 404 Deere engine in an new 86 Chevy one ton, changed the complete power train. He told me that for the investment he had in power train, he hoped Chevy built that same cab and chassis for the next 40 years.

My thoughts on the 282, it is now 47 years since the first ones came out. It hasn't been used in any new application since the mid 1970s, no one likes glow plugs in this day and age. How long before the parts supply ends. You put a 312 or a 360 in that 706, even if it costs a bit more, you've got an engine still being produced new.

I remember in 1978 my 560 put 2 pistons through the side of the block. IH dealer at that time wanted $4,000. CAD for a short block that included every thing but head and injectors. It had 11,000 hours on it at 17 years old and I couldn't see spending $4,000. on a tractor that didn't have CatII 3 point hitch. You have the hitch, much different story. I have also heard some concerns about aftermarket piston and sleeve kits on 282s. Seems the shoulder of the sleeve breaks off allowing piston to pull sleeve down into crankcase, at that point piston has to go somewhere. I'm not certain that is what happened with my tractor, but it did have relatively new engine kit that didn't come from IH. I never opened it up, a guy bought the tractor for a puller. With the price of new tractors today, one can afford to spend a few bucks on a good chassis. Just my 2 cents worth.

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