Re: M Problems ( Kind of long)

Posted by John T on July 29, 2006 at 07:28:52 from (66.244.90.5):

In Reply to: M Problems ( Kind of long) posted by Wisconsin Cowman on July 28, 2006 at 21:39:01:

Cowman, Im with "old" on a lot of this one. First of all like he pointed out BOTH the starter PLUS the starter switch would have to be stuck in order for that to run down a battery so quickly BUTTTTTT if that were the case when you were charging it the starter would have gotten hot and it would have been awfully hard to charge the battery with that 200 amp and more load sucking current out of it lol, and that would have also required the starter switch to be stuck as "old" noted.

HOWEVER in the winter when cranking amps are high or the battery is low are times when a starter switch contacts tend to stick/weld together, but I still think if that were the case PLUS the starter would have to be stuck also the battery would be tough to charge and the starter might "smoke"

Did you loosen the starter bolts and/or rock it cuz if its the drive stuck/jammed into the flywheel teeth that can free it up. If a starter is indeed dead stuck and assuming the starter switch is still okay she wont crank and that heavy draw can zap a battery pretty quick. I"d insure if its really mechanically stuck before I would suspect the starter and instead check out a few more things below FIRST.

Next thing I would do is remove, clean n wire brush and re attach each n every battery n starter n switch and ESPECIALLY frame ground connection cuz a bad one anywhere can cause your symptoms as posted below. A bad conenction can allow low currents to run lights BUT arc n spark n carbon n fail when you pull high amps such as the starter.

NOTE do you know for sure the battery is good?? Make sure theres electrolyte above all the plates and that no cells exhibit a gray or milky color, If in doubt use a known good substitute battery and have a shop Load Test your battery.......

Nowwwwwwww if the battery is good,,,,,,,if alllllllll cables are good n clean n tight,,,,,,and loosening the starter and/or rocking it insures its NOT mechanically stuck jammed,,,,,,,,,turn the lights on and depress the start switch!!!!! Iffffff the lights dim down badly the problem could be the starter is bad (other then stuck like a shorted armature etc) buttttttt if she dont crank and the lights dont dim much, it could be a faulty start switch or else still the starter (worn brushes maybe). You can in that event by pass jump around the switch direct to the starter n see if she cranks then and if so but NOT using the switch, suspect the starter switch.

Finaly as far as a slow battery dicsharge it depends on if its an alternatoror or still a genny and a VR, and if a VR its cutout relay might be sticking which makes the genny hot and pegs an ammeter to heavy - discharege n zaps the battery fairly quickly. or else oit may just be a short in the wiring somewhere.

Check the battery and/or use a substitute,,,,,,check alllllll connections,,,,,,,,,,,un stick the starter,,,,,,,,do the start switch and by pass tests above,,,,,, let is know n post back any questions.

Best wishes n God Bless

John T

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