Posted by Hugh MacKay on January 02, 2008 at 03:04:08 from (216.208.58.126):
In Reply to: 656 posted by ChrisAS on January 01, 2008 at 20:23:19:
Chris: Do you know the meaning of the word EVOLUTION? Do you really think the SM would have been given IPTO and called a SMTA had it not been for Cockshutt and Oliver? Do you really think the 656 would have been built heavier had it not been for the 560? Do you really think draft control would have been added had it not been for Harry Ferguson? Do you really think the 450 would have been given a 6 cylinder engine and called a 560, had it not been for Cockshutt and Oliver?
Having said all that, yes I agree 656 was quite a tractor, I put 15,000 hours on one, but I also put 11,000 hours on a 560. I also believe had 656 followed 450, IH would have sold 250,000 units. They might have known what would happen when they put a 6 cylinder engine in front of basically an MTA chassis.
I'm not sure 560 rear ends were completely IH fault. Farmars back then believed there was no limit to the weight that could be put on a single wheel for traction. The tractor rear end was a small part of the cost. The soil compaction they created was far greater, and today the boneheads want to blame soil compaction on the moldboard plow.
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