Posted by Hugh MacKay on February 11, 2008 at 05:11:58 from (209.226.247.46):
First let me say, George and I have exchanged e mails over night. See Scotty, it does strenghten your argument that George and I are concerned for the well being of each other.
Unlike most of you, I never believed IH did many things right. In fact I think they did a damn poor job of listening to their customers. You must understand, I've yet to see what I considered to be the perfect tractor, it hasn't been built as of 2008. I've also never seen a tractor that didn't have at least one feature I liked. Had IH done things right, my dad and I wouldn't have had to listen, (1946 to 1954) to the Cockshutt dealer two miles away, chirping up that he could sell us IPTO, all be it a clumsy tractor alongside a Farmall. I could have accepted fast hitch had I a rigid drawbar for trailing implements. 656, 666 and 686 could have had a non freewheeling TA, every manufacturer had that by the mid 60s.
Back to George and the SA, SC, H, etc. dispute. I've never said a SA would work alongside a SC and keep up, and I've never suggested a SC would work alongside a H and keep up. In 1951, less then $200. seperated a SA and SC and less than $200. seperated a SC and an H on purchase price. Most of the complaints I've heard about SC were the torque tube and engine were not rugged enough for the added wheel base over and above the SA. Most agreed the SC should have had more power. Having said that how much would it have added to the price of a Super C to beef up the torque tube, added frame rails same as H and M and finally changed the crank and rods to give C-135 engine. Most of my neighbors buying new 200 and 230 added a 1/2" plate 6" wide from clutch housing to front bolster. Some continued it to rear end to beef up the torque tube. My point is for probably the same dollars, IH could have made the C, SC, 200 and 230 a much better tractor for all around use.
What I do appologize to George for is not making myself clear enough on this stand. I know George would have liked a C-135 in his SC, 200 or 230. I'm almost betting he wouldn't frown on frame rails or a heavier torque tube either. Speaking of new tractors, I did ask George how he'd like to cultivate tobacco with a 2008 model, not being able to see the ground within 10' of tractor. I'm interseted to see his responce on that. I know some you will say tobacco is on it's way out. (maybe) I'm hearing new uses for tobacco. At any rate potato growers are still cultivating and will be into the future. Potatoes don't stay underground, one must keep burying them.
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