Posted by bc on May 18, 2008 at 07:50:44 from (69.151.186.97):
In Reply to: 460 or 606 ? posted by LEH on May 17, 2008 at 10:47:26:
I have a 2606 with an IH3000 loader and case 33s backhoe. Somehwere I posted some pictures on here cause I went through the same deal, was it a 460, 560, 656, 2656, or 2606. Do a forum search on 2606 and 3000 and some of my threads with the pics should show up in one of the threads. They use a lot of the same parts. After doing countless searches on the parts diagrams for those models at caseih.com, I finally decided it was a 2606. Problem was mine was a gas and I had to use 2656 to get any of the gas engine parts info. Same for the hydraulics. I had the 2606 IT manual and bought the 2656 manual (which the 2656 parts has more of the same hydraulics that I have with the 3000 loader, etc.). finally when I went to fix the brakes, the 2606 and 2656 brakes are totally different and that steered me to it being a 2606.
The 2606 and the 460 uses the same brakes, I think, but there are so many other differences that it will become obvious if you have an industrial such as the front grills. My front grill clearly hss 2 headlights with the word Industrial under them. Don't know how I missed it so long but then none of the parts diagrams seem to show that grill picture. To add to the confusion, I was having carb problems and mine had the 1 3/8" throat carb which was only showing for the 560 and the others had a 1 1/4" throat carb. The carb and alot of the other part numbers no longer cross ref in the caseih parts system so its a struggle. Since my engine is red and the rest of the tractor is yellow (another sign since the industrials were painted yellow), someone may have changed engines over time. Mine has enough blowby that if this went through 2 engines, then it has a lot of time on it.
My insturment panel never showed up in any parts diagrams. It has 4 guages evenly spaced across the top with the tach (now gone) down and to the left of the steering wheel with the throttle to the right of the steering wheel.
Also the 2606 uses a hydraulic hand pump for steering and will have 2 hydraulic lines going up under the steering wheel. The hand pump is about 6" long and 4" or so in diameter. The IH 460 used a gear shaft driven type system that comes down below the steering wheel. That should tell you pretty quick which one. They did make a 460 utility. Mine doesn't have a three point hitch. There are no 3 point rockshafts and the housing under the seat doesn't have the rockshaft valve assembly either. Where the pto would be is covered by a plate.
I found a 3000 loader op manual on ebay. Go to www.caseih.com or www.casece.com (for commercial) and no one can come up with a listing for the 3000. Not even the dealers or the company that bought out dresser who had bought out some of the caseih industrial stuff. The dealer didn't even had it on its old microfilm. The only reference I found to the 3000 was buried down in one of the hydraulic parts listings under 2656 and it listed a part or two that wer optional with the 3000 loader.
Get the I & T IH-25 manual since it has the 460 and the 2606 in it anyway.
Good luck and let me know what you decide. I'm still working through some hydraulic issues.
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