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Re: OT--Global Warming and Nebraska winters


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Posted by CNKS on December 20, 2008 at 13:48:21 from (216.144.104.128):

In Reply to: Re: OT--Global Warming and Nebraska winters posted by Janicholson on December 20, 2008 at 12:24:44:

Jim, please do not take this personally. I have a PhD in Soil Science and believe that many of the "very realistic non-cause faculty members", including a few at Kansas State University that I am retired from, really don't have much of a clue as to what is going on. It seems to be fashionable to jump on the bandwagon and promote popular theories -- it brings in grant money to their research programs. Global warming, if it occurs, is believed by the non-CO2 elimination fans to be caused by sun activity. The current "increase" in temperature began about 20 years before the increase in CO2 production brought about by coal fired plants, etc became significant. There is a correlation between the "increase" in temperature and the increase in carbon dioxide, but it has not been proven to be cause and effect, only a simple correlation coefficient (r value, not R squared). There might be visible decreases in the ice cap and visible increases in sea level -- but I bet if we go back a few thousand years, perhaps even a few hundred, we could find the same thing. Weather runs in cycles. Computer models give something I am sure many have heard about -- GIPGO, "Garbage in, processed garbage out". Anything that "works" can be put in those models, and they are constantly changing. Modeling is not science, but a means of predicting results without doing all the research--in this case they are used because predicting climate change is impossible. The warmest period on record in Kansas, also probably in all the Great Plains (dust bowl) states, occurred in the 1930's. All the so called scientists supporting global warming seem to have forgotten that. One study I read about used data only from 1940-up, perhaps including the 1930's would have scewed their data the wrong way. I live 5 miles downwind from a coal fired power plant (cough, hack). Been there since 1980. Our glorious governor and her appointed cohorts refuse to grant a permit for a much needed state of the art expansion of that plant because of the GIPCO thing. Insist that wind energy is the answer. Dodge City, KS, 50 miles from me, (the nearest wind velocity NOAA reporting station) has the highest 24 hr wind velocity in the US. Regardless, the wind does not blow all the time. I think we can control power plant emissions, necessary or not, automotive emissions, and other localized emissions. But, controlling the climate on a global scale or even a national scale is impossible -- only God can do that.


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