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Re: IH/Farmall 504 vs 2504


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Posted by karl f on December 22, 2008 at 20:17:22 from (172.129.196.142):

In Reply to: IH/Farmall 504 vs 2504 posted by Firemanjohn on December 22, 2008 at 19:43:13:

my understanding is that what you have is closest to the 504 utility model (ag or general purpose). There were 504 Farmalls (row crop, medium to high clearance underneath) and 504 Internationals (utility, low to medium clearance underneath). The utility model is designed for pretty much anything you can think of doing with a tractor. it loses it's usefulness in cultivating (weed control) taller crops, as it will knock them down with the lower axle heights. Generally these days, cultivating (in the weed control sense) is not done due to development of sprays and genetically modified plants.

So you are really close to having a utility ag model already. The biggest thing to make it ag is tires. There may be gearing and governed throttle issues with some industrial type machines compared to ag counterparts, but those are minor. My belief is that tire type defines the tractor's purpose. You may have a foot throttle and no three point or pto, but one could likely order an agricultural version with foot throttle and no 3 pt or pto if desired. tell us what you have and what you don't--be specific or show pictures.

what do you have for wheels and tires right now? an ag tractor needs to have deep, wide spaced chevron type lugs designed for traction in the field and at least some adjustability to wheel width. The tire size should have and "R-?" near it--r-1 is ag, r-2 is rice (very deep chevron,looks like a mudder), -3 i think is industrial (shallow and dense chevron); there is also a diamond turf tread (like your lawn mower) available in many sizes. again, be specific and or show pictures.

I'm not the most helpful but i hope i got you started. goto caseih.com and click on the links to the parts catalog online and look at the 504 items. You'll see many similarities and then some of the differences in the ag vs industrial versions and how it all fits together.

good luck
karl f


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