Posted by bc on February 11, 2009 at 07:18:06 from (68.88.175.43):
In Reply to: IH 282 info needed posted by Kajun on February 10, 2009 at 14:19:02:
Owen Aaland said: (quoted from post at 08:22:01 02/11/09)
bc said: (quoted from post at 20:20:11 02/10/09) Thanks gearnut. We were talking on another thread about the 221 gas and the 263 gas using the same short block. Are you saying that the same short block is also used for the 301 gas as well as the diesels? Does the 263 use a sleeve and the 221 use a thicker sleeve than the 263? Is that how it works?
Thanks.
The blocks are the same, not the short blocks which would include all the other parts internal to the block.
The C212 uses a crankshaft with a shorter stroke than the C263. This difference is compensated for by moving the piston pin hole lower in the piston for the C221. The sleeve is the same for both engines.
The C263, C291, and C301 all share the same crankshaft. The blocks are bored different to accept larger sleeves in the C291 or no sleeves in the 301.
Thanks alot Amigo. I assume they use the same head also then?
I guess the only true way to tell the difference between a 221 and 263 is to pull the pan and measure the crank or pull a spark plug and stick something in there to measure the stroke.
And if you want to tell the difference between a 263, 291, and 301 you have to pull the pan or head to measure the pistons and sleeves.
(mine has the side discharge exhaust manifold which the IH parts diagram just shows for the 221 but it also has the 1 3/8" throat carb which the diagrams shows only on the bigger engines)
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