Posted by trucker40 on June 04, 2009 at 11:19:57 from (69.151.61.140):
In Reply to: E85 U$E IT! posted by jonnny2006 on June 03, 2009 at 16:01:44:
Every time somebody says something about ethanol here comes a bunch of people saying it takes as much diesel to produce it as it makes.Thats not true.Also if its made from sugar cane it makes way more ethanol and removes a step from the process.I dont know if whats left over is good for feed with the sugar cane.Plus there are people working on making ethanol from switchgrass,corn cobs,corn stalks,tree bark,and lots of things.Until you do a little reading about it why dont you all get off of the bandwagon that is saying ethanol is no good.Ethanol is a good thing,even if it is made from corn.Also all that Heet and other stuff is alcohol,look at the ingredients.Thats just another kind of ethanol,which is actually what ethanol is,alcohol.I think they call it ethanol instead of alcohol to keep drunks from drinking it or something.Every gallon of ethanol we make saves us having to buy a gallon of oil from somewhere to make gas.Also better hidden and never mentioned is gasoline,oil production all have subsidys.I read where there is a lot less BTU loss than some claims as well. Maybe its not perfect but its keeping some people working and the money here in this country.That seems to be less of an issue with anybody anymore but that doesnt mean its not important.If we dont have something for people to do and try and keep some money here we are digging ourselves deeper into a hole that we might not be able to get out of.When you find yourself in a hole stop digging.Do more research on ethanol,I know its hard to find because of the snow job being thrown at it,but there are good reasons for us to use and make ethanol.Plus not every drop is made from corn as you will find out and lots of other crops are better than corn for making it,we just usually have a huge surplus of corn every year.They pile a million or more bushels on the ground 12 miles from where I live in Missouri.They cant begin to use all of that at the ethanol plant,but it uses as much as it can,the rest goes on the railroad eventually,its all gone now from last fall.Before ethanol farmers were going bankrupt growing corn that they barely broke even on.Now they do a little better but the price of everything else is jacked up to where they are almost back where they started.Farmers are not getting rich off of ethanol.Farmers can grow corn with the equipment they have.If you take ethanol out of the picture corn will be worthless,what few farmers are still around will go bankrupt,and you will starve.Now when you figure on that happening you might think differently about ethanol.
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