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Re: Need some Red Tractor Advice to start baling


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Posted by kossuth on February 05, 2010 at 04:39:08 from (214.3.140.16):

In Reply to: Need some Red Tractor Advice to start baling posted by old on February 04, 2010 at 07:39:29:

Hogleg, first things first you are looking to bale about 65 acres of hay. Didn't see but are you planning to make multiple cuttings or just one? 65 acres if it's any sorta decent ground is gonna net you about 60-75 bales an acre. really good fields can net you 100+ but it takes work to get fields in that kinda shape. So just some rough figuring you will be baling about 4500 bales on just one cutting. Second cutting often is about 1/3 to 1/4 of quantity of the first cutting but generally it's much better hay. I wouldn't get too wrapped around the PTO about which tractor to use. Keep your 3000 and run it on the rake/haybine, or if you get one the tedder. You can run MOST small square balers with the 3000 OK as long as you aren't pulling wagons etc. But honestly a good 45+ hp tractor should do it ok. You could use an M or super M and do it but like others said the live PTO and hydraulics will make life easier. I grew up running a New Holland baler on a Farmall M and the baler also had a thrower on it. You can do it but you gotta be good at doing the double clutch two step to knock the tractor outta get and keep the power to the baler so it doesn't plug up. Look at what you projected budget is and go from there. Getting a good 400-450 for relatively cheap shouldn't be an issue and to be honest, if you are looking to possibly round bale and only look to run a 4x4 or possibly a 4x5 then a 400-450 should do it. They are alittle thirsty, but that's why I'd keep the 3000 around. My dad still has the old M but also has a 450. The 450 is way more tractor than the M is but it also consumes almost double what the M consumes it seems. Not to mention our 450 is just as thirsty whether you are working the snot outta it or pulling a hay rake. From growing up on a farm and working with the equipment way more than I care to admit I can say one thing. Being you are doing this as a hobby more than anything spend most of your time and energy getting good impliments. Other than a round baler your 3000 could run just about any square baler but dealing with baler which the knotters won't tie because they are plum wore out or dealing with a repair links on the drivechain on a haybine because the shaft which the sprocket is mounted to is bent is way more agrivating and time consuming than dealing with an older tractor. Like I said a tractor has an issue you can just swap em around, the baler breaks your kinda in a tough spot. And don't assume nothing will break because you'll be sadly mistaken. Assume everything is going to break and you'll be much better off.


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