CoopertownBob said: (quoted from post at 21:05:47 06/14/10)
GabeTX said: (quoted from post at 22:13:31 06/14/10) OK, found stage 2 Super H that's local for $1000. Missing the hood and the carb, and ...
There's antifreeze in the oil. He says there's no visible cracks on the block or head and he dropped the pan and didn't see anything looking up towards the pistons. He said that there were seals near the top of the sleeve that were the most likely culprit, but that of course there's no way to know for sure. Says he picked it up in a scrapyard and it looked like it had been in a pasture for a while before then.
I have no clue what other questions I should ask with something that major. Are there any diagnostics that can be done short of taking the head off?
I've looked at Super H prices on the net (and the price of a remanufactured head if it turns out to be cracked and a carb) and even with those problems $1000 still seems ballpark reasonable to me--but y'all would be in a better position to say.
Stay away from that guy, as he either knows absolutely nothing about Farmalls, or he is trying to pull one over on you! Farmall H's and M's have dry sleeve liners, meaning there is no seal to leak. It either has a blown head gasket or is cracked somewhere internally in either the head or the block. Should be the head gasket, but you can only tell for certain by pulling the head, but you might be able to tell enough by pulling the spark plugs. A badly rusted end on only one means you found the location, and it is probably a head gasket, but it could also be a cracked cylinder wall and sleeve, due to severe mechanical damage. If it does turn out to just be a head gasket, count on new pistons and sleeves at the very least in this situation as well as the gasket, (about $400-$500 total just to repair that one issue).
How does this guy know it is a Super H? Does it have the serial tag still on it and it is readable? If the tag is there, the serial number will start with SH, if it starts with FBH, it is a regular H, not a Super. Be sure to also look at the front end, as the Super will have a more squared off one with a vertical hole in each front corner, and the starter will be on the left side of the engine, looking from the driver's seat. Also, $1000 for a non-running Super H, especially one with anti-freeze in the oil, is too much, you can buy them on eBay running for from that on up to $2500 restored, more if they have certain rare options on them.
A non-running H is only worth $200-$300 at most (scrap value), while a running one can be had for from $400-$750, depending on its condition, unless it too has some super rare factory option, like duals, a low-low gear set, or some after-market options like a nine speed tranny or a two barrel carb and matching manifold.
I would see if he would take around $7-800 on that H and take my chances. If it really is a Stage II it is worth it bc it would have all the "nice" things. If you had to give any more you could not get out of it what you had in it.
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