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Re: F12 repower-F12 flbs torque?


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Posted by LenNH on October 23, 2010 at 09:51:14 from (24.128.163.35):

In Reply to: F12 repower-F12 flbs torque? posted by WayneT on October 18, 2010 at 11:58:11:

Don't have Nebraska tests in front of me, but I believe the gas-powered F-12 put out a bit more than shown in the entry here. An F-12 was my "first tractor," which I started steering before I could reach the clutch, shortly after my father bought the tractor new in 1938. In a few months, I could scrunch down enough in the seat to start and stop the thing.
I see mostly praise for the tractor in the comments here. This was an absolutely great tractor for its day. Not the most comfortable, but not bad. The engine was one of the earlier designs for using increased engine speed to get power, rather than dropping in a humongous engine that ran at low speeds. I give partial credit to full-pressure lubrication for the engineers' willingness to go to higher speeds (I have a little Ford 1100 that will turn up 3000, and it is as reliable as they come!!). The Farmall H goes the same route (aside: a dealer told my father in the early 1940s that the H would tear itself apart because it ran so fast! We had two, and they were as reliable as any tractor made). The tradeoff is not much torque, but tractors designed this way use gearing to get the needed torque to pull their "rated" loads.
In the approximately 25 years that my father
used this F-12, I don't think any repairs were made other than the replacement of a couple of fuel pump diaphragms. In its earlier years, we
used it for all kinds of heavy work because it was so much more comfortable than the steel-wheeled 10-20 that was still on the farm. I never saw any sign of structural weakness in the engine, gearbox, frame, axles, etc. And, for all that some might say about the lack of power, we need to take into account the difference between steel wheels and rubber. Our F-12 on rubber pulled almost the same load that we used to put behind the 10-20--a double 12" plow or a 7-ft. double-disk harrow (the 10-20 pulled 2-14s; never tried that behind the F-12, but I suspect it would have done OK in moist soil in second gear). The F-12 governor was "snappy"--within the load range of the tractor, the governor was very responsive.
I used to cuss at the slowness of the tractor, but it was slow because it was designed in the early 30s for steel wheels. Hauling a hay wagon for a mile to the barn was a pretty leisurely process. The 7-mph 3rd gear would have made this a nice hauling tractor on the rough country roads of the forties.


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