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Re: I want to change painting methods - Need HELP / SUGGE...


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Posted by CNKS on August 15, 2011 at 18:16:50 from (216.144.104.128):

In Reply to: I want to change painting methods - Need HELP / SUGGESTIONS posted by RTR on August 15, 2011 at 11:35:25:

Apparantly all you are doing is scraping a little, sanding a little and washing the tractor. That is not nearly enough. You don't mention primers or surfacers. Clean EVERYTHING and then prime. It takes me hours or days to get a tractor clean. Wash the cast, wire brush it to bare metal, then clean it with soap and water, then wax and grease remover until the rags come away clean. Prime with epoxy primer, nothing else. Then topcoat. Don't be concerned with the flaws in the cast, they are supposed to be there. If it is really rotten, use a little body filler, but don't try to make cast perfect. On the sheet metal sand to bare metal -- ALL bare metal. Use body filler for any imperfections. Trade name BONDO is the poorest body filler made. Get some body filler from your paint supplier. Mix a little at a time, it is very sensitive to the amount of hardener. Use it until it becomes hard to spread, then make another small batch. The thinner it is the easier it is to sand, you may need multiple coats of it. Do as Gordo says regarding the sanding. When it is as smooth as you can get it, use epoxy primer (2 coats) followed by a Urethane (uses hardener) surfacer. Put on three coats about 10 minutes apart, let dry and wet sand with a block or a board if you want to do it as Gordo does. You may need to repeat the surfacer 3 or so times. You can add a small amount of whatever you are using for the topcoat (follow the instructions) to get a different color, that way you can see when you have sanded to the previous coat. Be prepared to take a lot of time. After that you can topcoat. If you did not do a good job it will show in the topcoat. Sand the bad areas, apply more bondo and surfacer, and remove as much of the previous topcoat as feasible and do the topcoat again. As to your pictures, if you can see imperfections in the photo, as Gordo mentioned about the fender, it is a lousy paint job. Regardless of the favorable comments, pictures are worthless, they simply do not show detail -- that has to be seen in person and is the reason some do not like your tractors. You need to take more time. There is a TON of info on the paint and body work forum on this site. Spend a day reading it. I apologize for the harsh answer, but you admitted your problems and need help.


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