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Re: farmall H 9 spd which brand is it?


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Posted by rankrank1 on December 25, 2011 at 11:43:46 from (69.171.171.183):

In Reply to: farmall H 9 spd which brand is it? posted by Heat Houser on December 25, 2011 at 04:48:32:


jmducks1 said: (quoted from post at 17:13:02 12/25/11) Thanks for the help. Is heisler better than m&w? and what other brands made 9 spds?? Does this just give a better road gear or just better in between gears? Are heislers built tough? I bought the tractor with a tight motor dont know what to do with this. He said it was a 1949 serial tag has a X1 on it that means gas head or what?? Does the heisler mean its rare or worth alot more? Or should i just sell rear end and trans how much is it worth? Thanks MERRY CHRISTMAS


Heisler and M&W are the 2 common ones that I am aware of. I believe the Heisler may be lever operated and the M&W might be cable operated although I may not remember correctly. Cables can be a source of problems due to rust if left oustide but are rather easily replaced by sustituting heavy truck cables like for a 2 speed axle since original cables will no longer be available. I myself would prefer the lever for simplicity and reliability.

As another poster pointed out the Hesiler and M&W were very common aftermarket additons to M's but not so much the H's so they are somewhat rare on an H. It does add a few hundred to the value of an h, but you still have an h which are very limited in value since 400,000 or so h's were built. Only H's with substantial value are 1954 Stage Two Super H's. Stage One Super H's have decent value. A plain H not real valuable to collectors but are still handy and useable on the farm.

The 9 speed overdrives do add several useable speeds. The 4th to 5th gear jump is a huge jump on a standard h or m (like 5.3 mph to 16.5 mph). The 9 speed gives you several speeds inbetween this range but it also overspeeds the PTO shaft so you are still limited to regular direct gears when using the PTO. Still the overdrive is very useful on drawbar loads. Road gear is still the same as it is locked out on purpose as 16.5 mph is plenty fast on an old h or m. If road gear was not locked out then these would be called 10 speeds instead of 9 speeds.

The X1 suffix means gas only and does have a higher compression ratio than the distillate models and much more than the lowly Kerosene models. In short the X1 will have more hp than a distillate model or a Kersene model (assuming still stock parts of course). If it has been overhauled in its lifetime it likely has Super H pistons installed.

I myself would try to fix and use. You might luck out and free up the stuck engine without disassembly. Regardless Farmall h parts are common and reasonably cheap due to being so common. I just purchased a 1951 H this summer. I must admit that it is one fun tractor to drive and I do enjoy driving it - hope to put a budget paint job on it this summer.

If you do decide to part yours out then I might be interested in the 9 speed over-drive unit.

This post was edited by rankrank1 at 12:04:27 12/25/11 6 times.



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