Howard, I guess I should have priced them installed. I had a couple of young fellows help me get them out of your pickup and onto my trailer. They looked smaller than I remembered, and I asked one of them what he thought they weighted. He thought maybe 70-80 pounds. Nope, when I got them home, I tried to wrestled them off the trailer and they seem more like the 140-145 the book says. Being 64 and with one bum arm (temporarily I hope), no way I could use main strength and brute force to get them on. I do have a cherry picker (which helped get them off the trailer). I appreciate all the advice you and other folks gave. I think when the time comes (still want to paint them up) I think I will get some help. Thanks much. Larry
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