Posted by CenTex Farmall on January 26, 2012 at 19:50:03 from (66.191.154.2):
In Reply to: Don't shoot me posted by Goodman on January 26, 2012 at 09:16:30:
I"m not going to poo-poo it as much.
First off, it looks complete so that"s a good start. Tires cost the same regardless of what color the tractor is so that"s a wash.
On the 20 series Deere went to a shorter stroke and higher RPM IIRC. It also finally got a quench type combustion chamber. (Which IH had 15 years before!)
The engine is basically exposed so when these sit they"re vulnerable to water getting in around leaky manifold gaskets. Being horizontal, the water doesn"t leak out of the cylinder so easy and things rust. Pull the plugs and look for corrosion. Bring a strong flashlight and shine in there to look for corroded cylinder walls. If they are then you are probably in for a long battle getting them unstuck.
The other problem is that the flywheel and/or clutch drive disc can get loose and then they beat the splines on the crankshaft to death, work hardening the spline area in the process. There are people who can weld it up and re-cut the splines but it costs $$$. Just needs to be checked out. I see the clutch cover is off. If they let you, try and remove the bolt from the end of the crank and you can see the spline end. Also the crank may move while you"re messing with it and that will tell you something.
All old treasures we find were parked for one reason or another. See if you can find out why. You didn"t say what price range they"re at, but in our area I would say 800 to scrap. The roll-o-matic front end is worth something.
Look up parts for an engine overhaul so you can know a worst case scenario cost.
As for what it"ll be worth, like most old tractor projects, you would be lucky to get most of your parts money back and labor is worth zero. But you would have a cool old John Deere to play with. It will hold it"s value but it won"t go way up.
Tractor prices are all over the place. Go to ebay and look at completed listings at the things that actaully sold. That"ll tell you what things are trading at, although local markets can be nuanced.
For example in our area we have tons of propane Farmalls and they"re fairly cheap. I could buy them down here and sell them up in the Northeast where they are not as common and maybe even make minimum wage doing it. (If I could find a way to teleport them up there)
BTW, I don"t blame you for not posting it over at the other forum. You probably would have gotten griped out because it has the wrong exhaust on it or something. They"re real particular over there.
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