Posted by Owen Aaland on April 30, 2012 at 22:44:34 from (216.47.35.132):
In Reply to: D.O.T Regs posted by Mike1972chev on April 30, 2012 at 12:25:02:
Super-H-Mike said: (quoted from post at 20:19:47 04/30/12) It is all very confusing! lol My 3/4 Dodge wieghs about 6200 lbs. empty by itself. My trailer in question wieghs about 2000 lbs. and is rated at 7,000 and licensed at 9,000 by P.O. On the scale with a heavy car the whole works has never been over 13,000 total, and truck is rated for a CGVW of 19,000 with max trailer wieght of 13,000 ,according to the manual.Anything I would ever tow using this trailer would be under 5,000, and usually way under.
First off you can ignore the license plate rating on the trailer when determining weight ratings as it applies to commercial vehicles. The first thing to determine is the definition of a vehicle. A vehicle is designed to carry passengers or cargo so it meets that criteria. Next step is it being used in commerce. That one is a little tougher since the State Patrol is likely to assume that it is. If you haul a car and either get paid for hauling or transporting to an event where monetary prizes are given they will consider it commerce. The last issue is manufacturers GVW. For intrastate use (never out of the state of Minnesota) the commercial vehicle definition begins at over 26,000 lbs. With a truck rated at 19,000 and a trailer rated at 7000 lbs it puts you at 26,000 lbs which is the maximum you can be and still not be considered a commercial vehicle. With those definitions your truck and trailer are not commercial vehicles in Minnesota as long as your actual loaded weight in not over 26,000 lbs.
One other thing that can change the determination of a commercial vehicle is if you are transporting any hazardous materials. If you transport hazardous materials in the amounts that they are required to be placarded the vehicle becomes a commercial vehicle no matter what the weight rating.
Not being a commercial vehicle gets you out of having to have a CDL and keeping a log book and inspection reports but the requirements are the same as far as vehicle condition and safe loading.
This post was edited by Owen Aaland at 22:46:01 04/30/12.
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