Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Classified Ads
Photo Ads
Tractor Parts
Salvage

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Your Stories
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

  
Farmall & IHC Tractors Discussion Board

Re: Lighting problems with my M (kicking my butt!)


[ Expand ] [ View Replies ] [ Add a Reply ] [ Return to Forum ]

Posted by Janicholson on November 09, 2013 at 05:35:56 from (74.60.94.18):

In Reply to: Lighting problems with my M (kicking my butt!) posted by Patrick HMD on November 08, 2013 at 18:39:14:

I am going to be complete in my discussion, so some might not apply.
First to assure there is no mag damage do not connect it up as though it was the coil and points system!!!!!!!
The mag works with no connection at all except to the plug wires. It must never get electricity in the small side terminal.
The side terminal is a kill terminal connected to the mag points, it is used to stop the mag from operating (shutting off the tractor)by being grounded through a very different acting ignition switch that looks the same as the old one except that it has only one terminal not two. It is a grounding switch. The wire from that single terminal goes to the side terminal on the Mag. The switch is open when pulled out (the opposite of the point and coil switch) The switch body is grounded through the oval electrical box, completing the grounding of the Mag to stop the engine, when pushed in.
The original ignition button can be used if the wire feeding it from the load side of the amp meter is removed from the amp meter and grounded to the box. Using it this way is confusing because it must be pushed in for run and pulled out to stop. (not recommended but works while the correct switch is on its way.)

DO Not Connect voltage to the Mag!!

The lights must get electricity to operate. The new light switch is not getting electricity to the correct terminal. Farmall Cub Dot Com has nice pictures of the wiring of the switch. The included diagram is correct. Note the F terminal on the cutout is not used, leave it disconnected as shown in the diagram.

The Amp meter is connected only to the Big stud on the starter switch that also connects to the battery with 10 gauge wire(Ms have several switch systems for the heavy current to the starter motor. It must connect to the stud connecting to the battery Negative terminal at the starter switch for 6V positive ground from the factory setup.

The other side of the amp meter connects to only two places: The Cutout Relay Bat terminal with a 10 gauge wire, and to the light switch fuse terminal as shown.

The F terminal on the Generator is connected to the lowest shown terminal on the light switch. It is a ground to operate system. which means the light switch provides ground for the field, either through the resistor (low charge "L") or directly to ground through the switch body and light box (High charge and all other positions)
The light switch is in the same housing as the Charge control switch and mounted on the same shaft, but electrically they are separate.
Your light switch is well grounded (tested with a light in your pic) that is a good start as one common issue is either rust in the connections to ground, or new paint.

This will make it operational. Jim



Replies:




Add a Reply

:
:
:

:

:

:

:

:

:

Advanced Posting Options

: If you check this box, email will be sent to you whenever someone replies to this message. Your email address must be entered above to receive notification. This notification will be cancelled automatically after 2 weeks.



 
Advanced Posting Tools
  Upload Photo  Select Gallery Photo  Attach Serial # List 
Return to Post 

TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Today's Featured Article - Women and Tractors - Tractor Engine Repair - by Teri Burkholder. One of the great things about working on a tractor engine with your other half is that you know what he is thinking of at all times and can anticipate his every move and his next thought of what he will do. With Ben, anyway, I can tell! He'll be busy working and I’m handing him tools and he says, "give me that..." and I’ve already got it in his hand or "hand me that....."and I’ve got the portable light right where he needed it placed to see. "Run in the house and get me a...."as I open th ... [Read Article]

Latest Ad: 1964 I-H 140 tractor with cultivators and sidedresser. Starts and runs good. Asking 2650. CALL RON AT 502-319-1952 [More Ads]

Copyright © 1997-2025 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy