Posted by JDseller on June 19, 2011 at 00:02:59 from (208.126.196.144):
In Reply to: Paying Hay Help posted by low budget on June 18, 2011 at 04:33:49:
I like how you say they are used to working for free for their Parents. By this statement you imply that you think that they should then be happy with whatever you want to pay them. Because their labor is "free" at home. Might not have meant it that way but it reads that way.
As to hay wages I have been paying $10-12 per hour for experienced hay help. I try to always pay a little better than the farmers around me. It makes me be able to get help and I usually have good help too.
I am all for saving money but poor pay will make poor help. Unless you are putting up a lot of hay then the labor bill will not be that high. What I mean is the difference between low market and high market would not be that much.
Example: 4 young men working for two days in hay. 8 hours each day. 4 x 2 x 8= 64 So they would have worked 64 man hours. At $8 per hour that would be $512. At $10 dollars per hour, $640. The difference is only $128. I am willing to bet that you can save that amount some where else that is not as critical.
Reasoning: if you pay them very well then you will be more likely to get your hay help when you really need it. If you low ball them then your might not get the help needed to do it in a timely manner. It would only take a loss of less than a ton of hay to pay the difference.
I used to help a older farmer with all kinds of things. He always paid me well. At the end of each season he would give us boys that helped all year a bonus. It was a $50 one time. Another young Farmer always paid us a little lower than everyone else( he had the money too. rich farmer"s son). He also figured our pay down to the minute. He would watch the last bale hit the barn loft and stop the time right then. We would climb out on "our" time not his.
The younger guy always was complaining how he had trouble getting any good help. Do you think any of us better hands would tell any other good hands to go work for him??? So his low balling us got him all of the lazy or inexperienced guys. The older guy alway had more help wanting to work than he needed. He could chose.
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