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Re: Older Tractors will Start 'in' Gear


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Posted by NCWayne on November 25, 2011 at 06:27:29 from (69.40.232.132):

In Reply to: Older Tractors will Start 'in' Gear posted by alo on November 24, 2011 at 19:34:38:

That's why you never ASSUME anything when it comes to working on or operating any piece of equipment. Regardless of how "safe" some engineer tries to make something there is always someone out there smart enough to bypass his gazillion dollar safety switch when it goes bad because all they need is a tractor that works, not one that "keeps thems safe".

Being a mechaic by trade you'd be amazed at some of the things I have seen people do in order to bypass safety circuits on various pieces of equipment. Too I'm often amazed at some of the novel ways that have been engineered into the equipment by the OEM to keep this from happening. For instance some of the Bobcat brand skidsteers has a solenoid in the hydraulic system to keep you from raising the boom if one of the safety features, or the computer in charge, goes bad. The system can be bypassed to the solenoid with straight battery voltage long enough to get the loader arms up and locked but continuing to bypass the computer will eventually burn out the solenoid because it doesn't normally operate on straight 12V system voltage. Instead the voltage is reduced in the computer module and the solenoid is designed to operate on a much lower voltage. I've got to give them credit though on that system, because even if the computer itself goes bad the cost to replace it is only like $250 so ultimately it's not worth the time you'd spend trying to figure out how what all you'd need in the way of resistors, etc, etc to bypass it without burning up the safety solenoid.

That said, something I've been saying for years, and I see that others who have responded seem to agree. There are alot of... stupid/irresponsible/call them what you will... people in this world. With the advent of OSHA, MSHA, etc these people have been protected and as a result haven't succomed to the laws of natural selection and killed thmesleves off. As a result they have been allowed to breed and create an ever larger, dumber population.......And, unfortunately, the cycle continues on and on unabated making life hard on others because of the stupidity of what was once the few but has now become the majority....


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