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Re: simple wiring question


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Posted by Hal/Eastern Washington on December 23, 2011 at 14:27:53 from (67.5.82.57):

In Reply to: simple wiring question posted by bkpigs on December 23, 2011 at 10:14:25:

I wouldn't. Years ago, I wired a circuit in my basement that way, thinking it was easy and neat, and much less complicated than using pigtails and wire nuts. And easier to fit into small boxes.

Eventually I added an outside box with a GFI for various occasional use, and as it happened, I tied it to the end of that same circuit. Everything worked fine for years.

Then my Son wanted to park his travel trailer behind my house and live in it while he was attending a school. OK, it had propane heat and really didn't need a lot of electricity, so we plugged into the existing outdoor outlet. All went fine until he realized that it cost a lot to heat with propane and it was a hassle dealing with refilling the fairly small tanks. So he bought an electric heater, and started using a lot more power.

I started noticing an odor in the basement that smelled like hot electrical. I checked around, but could not find anything. After several days, I decided that the smell was a little stronger in one of the bedrooms and checked closer. After moving a dresser, I found an unused outlet had a plastic wall plate that was a little discolored and I also felt heat in the wall. When I removed the outlet cover, I could see that there had been a bunch of heat inside the plastic box and a bunch of melting had occurred. I was darn lucky that it didn't burn the house down!!! And it never did pop the breaker.

When I removed the outlet, it was really charred and the plastic fell apart. The connection between the two black screws was still intact, but appeared to have been really hot. There was no evidence that there had been a poor connection between the wires and the screws, just through the connection between the screws. The plastic box was ruined.

I redid all the outlets on that circuit the proper way and replaced the ruined box. I also changed the outside box to its own dedicated circuit and breaker.

I am still perplexed as to why that single outlet failed when there were several others on either side of it wired exactly the same way that showed no problems at all. Maybe the connector strip between the two black screws was a little thinner, or cracked and it just couldn't take the load being sent through it. At any rate, I decided I really dodged a bullet. And decided to never wire outlets that way again. Live and learn...Good luck!


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