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Re: OT-Investing in laying hen flocks


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Posted by farmerboy on January 16, 2012 at 07:46:09 from (75.100.218.101):

In Reply to: OT-Investing in laying hen flocks posted by tomtirediron on January 15, 2012 at 18:01:18:

Hi Mike,

I have 8300 cage-free organic hens here in SW WI. I own my buildings, own my chickens, own my feed, and own the liability of how well or poorly the farm does. My birds have 1.75 square feet per bird in the barn. I do know my Co-op is looking for laying operations of 10,000 birds or less in Pennsylvania if you're willing to go Organic. I sell to Organic Valley.

My dad has 3000 pigs for Big Gain. He owns the barns and the poo, but they own the pigs, the feed, and the contract. He's fought with them for years over big things like not being paid for services stated in the contract and being told he has to do things not stated in the contract for free to little things like not keeping the propane tanks above 40% (he heats the barns with wood) or having the manure in the pit above or below a certain level. They once told him they were gonna yank the contract because he was hard to deal with. He just said he'd see 'em in court if they did. He's the bigger A-hole.

If you do it, make sure you READ the contract from cover to cover. Then have a lawyer friend of yours READ it. Be prepared to be the bigger a-hole. The company you contract with is not your friend. They didn't get rich by being friendly.

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Gene,

I bet we'd get better production out of you if we shoved you in a cage barely big enough for you to turn around - along with four other humans....

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Dave,

You're gonna have to explain to me why a chicken stuffed in a battery cage would smell less than a chicken allowed to roam on the floor or in a backyard. My farm is on top of a hill. There are expensive houses all up and down the next hill over to the south of me (we get lots of north winds). My wife's cousin is on one of those houses (town dentist) and he says he NEVER smells the barns. Nice thing about chicken smell over pig smell is it washes off. I take a shower and no one would ever assume I own a chicken farm.


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